Anonymous

Ideally a value in CFM would be good.

I am NOT after knowing how many BHP it will cool on a YB cossie, i know thats accepted to be sub 400, im actually thinking about using one as the core for a homemade charge cooler so i'm purely after the sort of volume of air it can flow realistically (and hence how much BHP it will flow) not how much it can cool.

Garage19

Can't help you with the flow rates, but i have thought of doing just what you have described in the past.

Would be interesting to see the results.

jb fletch

iTrader: (1)

Didn't Steven RW do this with a 2WD cooler on his old Rs turbo ? ? ?

If i remember he had to have a huge tank in the boot to make it efficent !



Not the answer your lookin for but hey hoo, RW might be able to answer & it's up for ya anywayz !

Jb

Anonymous

WELL THEN FUCK OFF OUT OF MY THREAD YOU USELESS FUCKING CUNT





Lol, thought it might appeal to your homebrew motorsport attitude

frog

Chip, if you can work out what a T34 flows at 25psi, that's about as far as Mark would take our 2wd in june before it detted, with a good safety margin.

Edited to add: It runs a 4x4 cooler before you ask

reality

T34 can flow lots of different figures at 25 psi..

Anonymous

Thats NOT the question im asking at all mate, but cheers for trying.


What i want to know, it NOT how much horsepower will it flow on a YB before it starts to Det in normal use, but how much air would it flow by volume

Once you dump the thing in a box of ICE, the BHP handling capacity is suddenly MASSIVELY increased, but the flow capacity doesnt change.

Anonymous

Indeed, could be anything from the surge limit up to where the compressor over speeds, but lets NOT get into that as its irrelevant to my thread anyway.

Thanks

frog

At least you didn't call me a useless cunt

Good luck in your quest.

Ryan

think dave moss aka yum ran 490 through a standard 4x4 cooler if i remember rightly?

it maybe have been the escort charge version, but not 100%

Garage19

He meant it in an affectionate way

The reason i thought about doing it was the problems i was having packaging an IC in the front of a seven type kit car.

gingeRS

cant you work it out????

you seem to know everything else

Anonymous

In my case its because the engine is mid mounted and i have no airflow through the back of the car, similar effect though, ie cant use a rs500 type affair.

Garage19

I once saw an MR2 that had a front mounted IC. Looked like it had two scaffold poles running the car

So is your LET engine going in the back of the Nova??

Give me a shout if you want a hand fabricating the jacket.

Anonymous

Im actually thinking of keeping the nova as it is with about 250bhp, and put the big power motor (well for a let, 500 doesnt seem a lot on a ford forum, LOL) in the back of a corsa instead as i can do it as more of a sleeper which i cant really with the nova.

Anonymous

Sounds like a plan

Will have to lay my hands on a 4wd intercooler and get back to you if i ever manage to get any useful data about what sort of flow they can cope with!

I wonder if stu has ever tried to map a 500bhp car on a 4wd cooler on a cold day

Anonymous

LLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Garage19

took me a while to figure out what that said!

Just get 2 x 2wd ICs, cut the ends off and make one larger one. Its easy. 2wd ICs are cheaper and easier to get as everyone has up graded to 4wd ones!

Anonymous

Excellent idea, and i KNOW they will flow enough too

Let me know when its finished and i will arrange a courier to collect it

Garage19

Supply 2 ICs, tell me where you want the inlets/outlets (water and air) and their sizes and a cheque with a reasonable donation to the doug's holiday fund..... i will sort it out for you.

Anonymous

Ok mate, bare with me though, ive only just used up my last 2wd cooler.


Ebay here i come

reality

I think more importantly will be just how big of a water container are you going to have to keep that air cool

Jay,

iTrader: (4)

just buy a big turbo escort charge cooler works fine on my car

Anonymous

I wouldnt trust it for 500bhp+ though TBH mate

Graceland

Would it be an idea having a seperate radiator for the charge cooler on the front of the car Chip - this would give increased cooling of the water jacket for the chargecooler, combined with a large water tank too - nice and efficient.

electic water pump, and you're sorted

Anonymous

Thats how all charge coolers work gracey

Graceland

I thought so, but wans't 100% sure, as it is something that I have never looked at

Porkie

iTrader: (1)

No its not chip.... Escos uses normal cooling rad doesn't it for a start?

Anonymous

Would that not mean that the coldest the water ever got to was about 90 degrees?

I thought on the escoc it was a seperate section on the end of the radiator which constitutes a seperate system?


Anyway, every aftermarket one and every manufacturer one i know details of (ie the subaru one i have on another car of mine) are ALL like that.

foreigneRS

escos as standard uses normal coolant circuit, unbelievable but true

if you really need to know, i can get one tested. my mates who i share the 'ring taxi with have one over there ready to fit to it and just happen to have a flow bench at work.

it's normally used to measure the flow rate through automotive HVAC systems, so I don't know if it will go high enough.

but anyway, you should know that the flow rate has a relationship to the pressure drop. you can't ask how much it will flow, unless you specify at what pressure drop (and also what the temperature and Relative Humidity are as it also affects it slightly)

Rene

380bhp max (is what i been told)

Jay,

iTrader: (4)

i been told this loadsa time to rene

foreigneRS

Rick

Was just about to say - it's impossible to define flow as a metric in itself.

It will be a LOT though, they are very efficient cores - dont think you will have a problem at all.

Water coming out of an escos (or any) rad is MUCH cooler than 90 degrees - thats the temp it is when it leaves the head...

Anonymous

Nick, i meant at "something acceptable" like for example a 4 psi drop or so perhaps.

But its ok, ive solved the problem now, im using two 4wd ones in parellel, that should be enough to cool pretty much any engine in a charge cooler format


Amazing about the escos, i really am shocked to hear it uses engine coolant!