tuning a S2
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tuning a S2
What bull shit! Went to power engineering to get my car set up and was 205bhp before he touched it on the first run, then he played with the ignition gave me a new tps and I left with 200bhp on the dot!
5bhp DOWN!
I wanted to get my boost increased from 15 to 20 psi but he said he couldn't adjust the fueling any more to fuel it??? he also said its leaning off in 5th a bit, 6% instead of 8?? not sure what that means!!
my spec below, what do ya reckon??
1.6 standard engine and turbo with newman cam and solid followers
Radtech intercooler
Chip
Greddy boost controller
Omex rev limiter
-31 actuator
K&N
Full exhaust system
Exhaust wrap
Don't think any other mods have an affect on bhp so won't list them!
Why can't he fuel for 20psi? Other cars seem to be able to! Do I really need a 5th injector?
I'm sure I read about the fuel ecu being adjusted to fuel better??
Please help I just thrown away £200 and in the same position
5bhp DOWN!
I wanted to get my boost increased from 15 to 20 psi but he said he couldn't adjust the fueling any more to fuel it??? he also said its leaning off in 5th a bit, 6% instead of 8?? not sure what that means!!
my spec below, what do ya reckon??
1.6 standard engine and turbo with newman cam and solid followers
Radtech intercooler
Chip
Greddy boost controller
Omex rev limiter
-31 actuator
K&N
Full exhaust system
Exhaust wrap
Don't think any other mods have an affect on bhp so won't list them!
Why can't he fuel for 20psi? Other cars seem to be able to! Do I really need a 5th injector?
I'm sure I read about the fuel ecu being adjusted to fuel better??
Please help I just thrown away £200 and in the same position
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best to put this in RST room.
the CO is a measure of AFR - air fuel ratio.
205 is a very good power for the boost and spec - that'll be down to the cam. It was probably right on the limit of the fuelling. The 5hp down may have been due to heat soak etc - that i wouldnt worry about. PE have never been keen on turning up the fuel pressure. It takes a lot of time to try and get the balance right and to prevent rich cruise an idle. I am not keen on running KE much more than 220 ish on account of fuel economy. The mf2 is a nice mod for sure. 20psi on a std turbo is pushing reliability...
the CO is a measure of AFR - air fuel ratio.
205 is a very good power for the boost and spec - that'll be down to the cam. It was probably right on the limit of the fuelling. The 5hp down may have been due to heat soak etc - that i wouldnt worry about. PE have never been keen on turning up the fuel pressure. It takes a lot of time to try and get the balance right and to prevent rich cruise an idle. I am not keen on running KE much more than 220 ish on account of fuel economy. The mf2 is a nice mod for sure. 20psi on a std turbo is pushing reliability...
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not really worried about reliability of the turbo as nice new one can be put on if the worst happens!
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I am impressed with the bhp fo the spec but I wanted th boost increased lol
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I am impressed with the bhp fo the spec but I wanted th boost increased lol
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i do not know much about these newman cams so please correct me if i am wrong....
surely the newman cam is doing sweet FA? thought there were to help top end power and could rev beyond 7k??!!!
how can you get the fuel to go to this and can the standard rods cope with such high RPM???
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surely the newman cam is doing sweet FA? thought there were to help top end power and could rev beyond 7k??!!!
how can you get the fuel to go to this and can the standard rods cope with such high RPM???
thanks
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Solid lifters don't pump up and cause valve float issues at high rpm. However, the cam is a longer duration and higher lift than std, so it will give more power once above say 4500rpm than a std cam.
Solid lifters don't pump up and cause valve float issues at high rpm. However, the cam is a longer duration and higher lift than std, so it will give more power once above say 4500rpm than a std cam.
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Idea of a setup mate is that they get the car running at its optimum level, looks to me thats exactly what they did.
Bite the bullet on this occasion, and look into better management and turbo for more power.
Bite the bullet on this occasion, and look into better management and turbo for more power.
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Is Mr Todd still with you guys ?
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Is Mr Todd still with you guys ?
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hey Mike, me & Chris both left a couple of months ago, Eyeball's still doing the tuning, he knows his stuff aswell, just would rather tune a car to a safe level rather than have it 20bhp more & ready to blow
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thats good power figure for that setup, no point ringing nemore power outa that turbo you wont flow nemore air and your inlet temps will rise considerably, beleive people wen they say 15psi is limit on a standard turbo, u need cossie turbo or stg2 or 3 erst turbo, keep wiv the standard exhaust turbine .38 i think off the top of my head, otherwise your'l move peak power up the revs and car wont be as fun to drive, ive been in your situation mate wanting more power from my old escort with stardard motor, reality is you need to get your engine sorted to be able to cope wiv extra boost, revs, heat and fueling need to hit 200+ good luck
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so what do I need to do apart from new turbo?
surely new turbo will flow more and fueling will still not cope with any increase in any way??
I want to stick with mfi so what are my options now?
surely new turbo will flow more and fueling will still not cope with any increase in any way??
I want to stick with mfi so what are my options now?
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cossie management, dta, autronic, go-tech, 5th injector, there is soo many different management soloutions but u need to get it all setup and mapped properly something like £400 a mapping session correct me if im wrong?! stick wiv your motor as it is enjoy it then get a cos as the management is already in place and you get 2L turbo charged power
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I am not going to coment on your engine spec. But a month ago I was using the KE jetronic with a fifth injector runing 20psi. Then one day it stopped making power? which I traced to a broken wire on the fifth injector, so I repaired the wire and what do you know the power came back(luckey not to melt the pistons). So on my car the fifth injector made a very large difference.
I have now switched to Gotech - lot better.
I have now switched to Gotech - lot better.
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Chris Todd is now at Brooklands Horsepower in Surrey, am booked to have him setup my RST on August 31st
I think i would rather 5bhp less than a melted engine
I think i would rather 5bhp less than a melted engine
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Chris Todd is now at Brooklands Horsepower in Surrey, am booked to have him setup my RST on August 31st
I think i would rather 5bhp less than a melted engine
I think i would rather 5bhp less than a melted engine
better being safe than sorry
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yes but it wasnt safe tho, Hrsturbo is 5ponies down and they still said it was lean top end?! maybe its safer than it was???
anyhow pretty impressive amount of ponies for the boost!
anyhow pretty impressive amount of ponies for the boost!
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