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Old 08-08-2006, 11:26 AM
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Default Dilemma, EVO or RS500?? ( Dilemma solved)

So you know ive sold the 3dr,

What next? RS500, or EVO 6 Tommi Mak

Shouldn`t be asking a silly question like that on a ford site should i
Old 08-08-2006, 11:28 AM
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not a hard choice.

evo 6 TME everytime
Old 08-08-2006, 11:29 AM
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Road car or track car????

Road car = Evo
Track car = Evo

Concourse Bufty car? RS500
Old 08-08-2006, 11:29 AM
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What do you want the car for?

For anything relating to actually driving it, the evo is a far better car.
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
What do you want the car for?

For anything relating to actually driving it, the evo is a far better car.
Chip, just as a road car really, with the odd trackday,

leaning towards the Evo must say.............
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What an awful situation to be in,how are you coping!

EVO for me to be honest,RS500 isn't THAT different to what you had before,bar a bit of prestige
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Evo 100 times out of 100.
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Originally Posted by bud-weis
What an awful situation to be in,how are you coping!

EVO for me to be honest,RS500 isn't THAT different to what you had before,bar a bit of prestige
That`s what ive been telling myself all morning Martin

Going to Extreme this afternoon to look@ a couple
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Yo uwoudl be better off with another 3door than an rs500 for what you want, but better still with an Evo!
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Originally Posted by staffi
Originally Posted by bud-weis
What an awful situation to be in,how are you coping!

EVO for me to be honest,RS500 isn't THAT different to what you had before,bar a bit of prestige
That`s what ive been telling myself all morning Martin

Going to Extreme this afternoon to look@ a couple
Lemme know what that black XT400 is like if they still have it there
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by staffi
Originally Posted by bud-weis
What an awful situation to be in,how are you coping!

EVO for me to be honest,RS500 isn't THAT different to what you had before,bar a bit of prestige
That`s what ive been telling myself all morning Martin

Going to Extreme this afternoon to look@ a couple
Lemme know what that black XT400 is like if they still have it there
Will do Lynn...............
Old 08-08-2006, 11:40 AM
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EVO TME

How much do they go for?
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Road car or track car????

Road car = Evo
Track car = Evo

Concourse Bufty car? RS500
i think that sums it up
Old 08-08-2006, 11:41 AM
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Yeah but Pete, you've had EVOs before, but never an RS500. And hey, variety is the spice of life...
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Originally Posted by Simon@FF
Yeah but Pete, you've had EVOs before, but never an RS500. And hey, variety is the spice of life...
PMSL @ the best argument the editor of the uk's best selling ford mag can come up with to get you to buy one

Nice try though simon
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Originally Posted by Simon@FF
Yeah but Pete, you've had EVOs before, but never an RS500. And hey, variety is the spice of life...
Hi Simon, yes mate i know, evo 8 was nice, but ive always LUSTED for a TOMMI
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my rs500 isnt a bufty car!

and its fairly quick too.........

and it could be for sale............

and its cheaper than most..........

and i kept up with my mates evo 6 makinnen on the way home from 10 of the best on the motorway and the twisty stuff......in a n reg uk impreza wagon(i have witnesses-sticky and shorty!).

but they do look nice,even i have been tempted but think i would get bored quickly.i had an evo 4 about a year ago and had it for 18 hours before p/x ing it for an escos the next day.(which i also didnt really like!)
just cant pull myself away from 2wd cossies.
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@Jay owning an Evo for 18 hours, quality
Old 08-08-2006, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fordsportjay

and i kept up with my mates evo 6 makinnen on the way home from 10 of the best on the motorway and the twisty stuff......in a n reg uk impreza wagon(i have witnesses-sticky and shorty!).
Do you REALLY believe that actually proves something that is relevant?

If so i would love to know what it is?
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what have i missed? you said you'd never sell the 3 door?
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RS500

Why...

If you dont get one now, you never will, prices WILL go thru the roof when they turn historic next year (20 years)

All the millionaire hillclimbers will buy them for squirting up hills and crashing into walls.

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chip,it proves to me that the evo6 is only similar in performance to a uk spec subaru which was virtually standard,even my mate was surprised.
we're both decent drivers and there was nothing between the cars round the islands etc.
it tells me that i would get bored quickly with owning either over owning my rs500 which i get a buzz off whenever i drive it.dont get me wrong,the evo/subaru are fun to drive,just not as much fun,in my opinion as my rs500 is.
when i had the evo 4 i took it round all the good roads round here and ended up thinking "is that it"!

also when i was at 10 of the best i was really thinking about buying an evo/subaru for keeps,but then the reality of the road ones not being anything like the ones there hit me on the drive home.


thats all.................
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To be honest, I'd probably look at a 7 or something......

Those 6 TMEs are a little too tacky for my liking, especially when stickered up
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Originally Posted by topaz
RS500

Why...

If you dont get one now, you never will, prices WILL go thru the roof when they turn historic next year (20 years)

All the millionaire hillclimbers will buy them for squirting up hills and crashing into walls.

good call neil------maybe i should keep mine till then at least as mine is probably more suitable than most for that sort of thing being not as mint as most
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Originally Posted by fordsportjay
chip,it proves to me that the evo6 is only similar in performance to a uk spec subaru which was virtually standard,even my mate was surprised.
To me it just sounds like it proves you were driving harder than he was.
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Spot on Chip!
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Originally Posted by topaz
RS500

Why...

If you dont get one now, you never will, prices WILL go thru the roof when they turn historic next year (20 years)

All the millionaire hillclimbers will buy them for squirting up hills and crashing into walls.

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I always fail to understand this though.

The EVO is probably three times the "driver's car" then the RS500 - it's faster, better gearing, stops better, handles better, and is faster in every road scenario (std for std).

How can the car that is not only slower, but ultimately less rewarding be the better car to drive? Maybe you're just not a very good driver
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by fordsportjay
chip,it proves to me that the evo6 is only similar in performance to a uk spec subaru which was virtually standard,even my mate was surprised.
To me it just sounds like it proves you were driving harder than he was.
Exactly...
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Originally Posted by fordsportjay
good call neil------maybe i should keep mine till then at least as mine is probably more suitable than most for that sort of thing being not as mint as most
looks fookin mint to me mate, your waaaaay too critical...

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maybe,but he has told me he was trying very hard too.......

im not slating any of them-i actually like the way the subarus drive,i like the look of the evo 6,i didnt particularly like the way the evo 4 drove,i havent driven an evo 6 so cannot comment on wether i like the drive of them.from what i saw and experienced on the drive back it seems to me that there isnt much difference in performance between the subaru and the evo.he had 4 people in,i had 3.he was trying,so was i.

in my opinion-would i sell the rs500 and replace it with an evo and be happy-no,but thats me.

would i sell the rs500,buy a cheapish subaru as a runabout and build a big power sapphire-yes

im sure pete will look long and hard at all options and pick wisely,eh pete
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Actually, I can see EXACTLY where Jay is coming from.

His Nan could drive an Evo quickly and anyone else with a modicum of skill could get within seconds of a truly quick driver's lap time with one (back to back, same car). This is due to all the electronics helping out the ham-fisted etc.

A POWERFUL 2wd Cossie is a LOT of hard work to keep pointing in a straight line, let alone around a track in a quick time. Mastering this skill gives an extra bit of enjoyment out of owning one, compared to the ease of driving an Evo fast, which ANYONE can do .
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
I always fail to understand this though.

The EVO is probably three times the "driver's car" then the RS500 - it's faster, better gearing, stops better, handles better, and is faster in every road scenario (std for std).

How can the car that is not only slower, but ultimately less rewarding be the better car to drive? Maybe you're just not a very good driver
maybe im not a very good driver,its not for me to say.im confident behind the wheel of a car and enjoy driving hard and up to now (im 36)have never come unstuck.

i dont own a standard rs500 unfortunately-mine is modified.i just dont think i would get the buzz i get in the rs500 in an evo on the road.

plus will an rs500 depreciate as much as an evo will over say the next 5 years?

i have been through the dilemmas of what i could replace the rs500 with if i sold it;
skyline,evo,subaru etc.....but up to now havent found something that has made me want to do it....for whichever reason.i always thought a go in a skyline would be the end of cossie ownership for me but i drove a standard ish r33 gtr and it didnt make me want to sell the rs500!
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So why don't you have a powerful 2wd cossie anymore then Mike?
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Actually, I can see EXACTLY where Jay is coming from.

His Nan could drive an Evo quickly and anyone else with a modicum of skill could get within seconds of a truly quick driver's lap time with one (back to back, same car). This is due to all the electronics helping out the ham-fisted etc.

A POWERFUL 2wd Cossie is a LOT of hard work to keep pointing in a straight line, let alone around a track in a quick time. Mastering this skill gives an extra bit of enjoyment out of owning one, compared to the ease of driving an Evo fast, which ANYONE can do .
thanks mike
i just dont get the buzz driving the subaru's and evo's that i do when driving the rs500.fact.
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
So why don't you have a powerful 2wd cossie anymore then Mike?
why havent you got an evo?
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
So why don't you have a powerful 2wd cossie anymore then Mike?
Been there, seen it, done it, got the T-shirt . But I would like another again one day actually . But at the moment, I can't justify it .

I have in my mind an ultimate spec one, that should my numbers come up, I WILL build (so never then ). You may be surprised to know it would only be around 460-470bhp, but be super responsive and with the steering mods to give it more lock, I'd like to go drifting with it as well .

I would also like to say, that on the ROAD, my Sapphire was more fun than the Escort. But on track (where you can explore the limits of traction etc), the situation is reversed, as the Sapphire with 500+bhp was too frustrating with all that wheel-spin.
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Drifting? You absolute tart! You could have built a decent drift car for the money your gearbox cost you, and had all the fun, and none of the expense!

Jay - the ONLY reason I don't have an EVO is I can't afford one right now, thanks to me saving every penny I can. I'd have one like a shot though for a road car, as they are so fast for daily use.

I also prefer RWD, and find mastering that, as Mike suggests, more rewarding than outright speed etc, but a 500 for daily road use? It's an old old car nowadays......
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I should have also added that I LOVE Cossies , so it would have to be at LEAST a Cossie powered drift car. I even like the idea of that RX7 with the Cossie lump - anyone know if it ever got finished?


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