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Old 14-06-2006, 03:48 PM
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Going to be spraying the bmw soon, and need to mask over various places.

I need to peel back and hold the windscreen and rear screen seals in place, masking tape won't be strong enough, gaffer tape will leave sticky residue

I've heard there is a special "hook tape" that is purpurse made for the job, but can't remember its propper name, can anyone help?
Old 14-06-2006, 03:52 PM
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Not sure on tape, i take the screens out.
Old 14-06-2006, 03:55 PM
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how doe you mask the interior off then, I can see my hand going thru newspaper
Old 14-06-2006, 04:22 PM
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Get a roll of 3ft masking paper paul, it'll be better than newspaper.

Can get tape that you slide behind the seal and pull back and tape down to hold it out of the way.
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I read about someone using washing line to hold the lip of the screen rubbers off the bodywork
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Originally Posted by xr_craig
Get a roll of 3ft masking paper Paul, it'll be better than newspaper.

Can get tape that you slide behind the seal and pull back and tape down to hold it out of the way.

i've found the 3m windscreen masking tape, but its like 11 quid a roll , 15mm plastic edge that slides under the trim,and then a high adhesive tape that sticks to the screen


Washing line
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Get the glass out. Will make a MUCH better job when it's done. I've seen it when the glass has been left in and it looks tacky, the paint always ends up crack around the seal.
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As siad, putting washing line (the thin nylon-coated stuff) under the rubber, and normal masking tape on the window and seal works well. It allows the spray to get underneath and comes out easily afterwards to give a nice finish when the rubber settles back down onto the paint - after it has hardened!
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Originally Posted by Rab
Get the glass out. Will make a MUCH better job when it's done. I've seen it when the glass has been left in and it looks tacky, the paint always ends up crack around the seal.
Most times thats because the seal has just been masked mate, not lifted/pulled back. Hence the paint edge is right near the rubber.

Paul, it's probably worth buying it mate, if it means the job is done right.
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Originally Posted by Iain Mac
As siad, putting washing line (the thin nylon-coated stuff) under the rubber, and normal masking tape on the window and seal works well. It allows the spray to get underneath and comes out easily afterwards to give a nice finish when the rubber settles back down onto the paint - after it has hardened!
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Originally Posted by aRSe
I read about someone using washing line to hold the lip of the screen rubbers off the bodywork
there's ya answer Paul
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Gave the washing line trick a go earlier, but used some co-axial cable I have spare, stuffed it between the seal and the body and there is a good 10mm gap once the seal has been lifted to allow me to get the paint in and give it a nice finish

Top tips from you people
Old 14-06-2006, 10:36 PM
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When are you spraying it?


I can get you rolls of paper coming out your ears, if you want to wait 30 odd day ( thats when im home ) i can supply all your needs, FOC

Tack rags, paper, prep paper, degreasers etc etc


Let me know
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Oh.. and your best of taking the rubber out.. you'll have shit under it that wont come out, but when your spraying it, the air off the gun could blow it out and onto the job...


Dont be gash, do it right trust me
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Radders - i'll be spraying within 2 to 3 weeks chap

If taking the seals out was only that easy

altho I can get A1 sheets of 100gsm paper from work, ideal for masking with and measuing cups too from the water dispensers
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Mix the paint 3:1 or 2:1

I mix it 3:1 as i find it easier to spray and it drys quicker, but that come with experience i guess


Take the glass and rubber out, you'll get a far better job!


And i would want to dish out a when a post come up...

How do i...
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Paul - it is SOOOO easy to remove the screen from E30's intact, you'd be far better off just taking em out to paint. Mask the inside up with masking tape and a couple of layers of newspaper/brownpaper (shiney surface on brownpaper doesn't absorb paint as much as newspaper) and you'll be fine....

Taking the screens out of E30's is the same technique as doing a Mini - but FAR easier as it's nowhere near as tight. When we replace em, we have to be carefull not to sneeze - cos they'd just fall into place if you sneeze and the customer wouldn't be happy paying their Ł50 for a sneeze's worth of work
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Gracie.....just get ya paintbrush out mate I'm sure you'd be able to do a good job of cutting in upto all the seals after a bit of practise!!!!
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Paul - if you was closer I'd be happy to come take em out and put em back in later... But your freaking miles away

I can talk you through it tho if ya like
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Matt - its alright chap, i'm on the job
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Good man!

To make life easier when you put it back in, get yourself one of these;



That will make putting the rubber strip back in the main rubber much MUCH easier (plus, keep greasing it up with WD40 aswell, as it helps nicely )

Just a quick note tho - it is NOT the type of screen that you put the rubber on the glass and then use string to fit it... Many people get this wrong! Escorts (mk3 + 4) are "string in" screens (rubber off car completely, fit to screen, then use string to get it in the car) and your Beemer is an "etch in" - pull the rubber insert out of the main runner trim, and you will be easily able to lift screen out. Leave main rubber on car, refit screen, then use this tool to insert the rubber insert.

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