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26-03-2006, 06:23 PM
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I think its wrong that our special services risked their lives to rescue some stupid old man and his equally stupid friends who put themselves in a postion they should not of been in. what kind of an idiot goes into a warzone and expects no trouble............... TOSSERS
26-03-2006, 06:27 PM
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I think he is an ungrateful bastard. The worlds public and press fought hard to get him freed and you would think that the least the miserable old bastard could do would be to give a proper interview.
It's that kind of div that would go back and do it again.
It's that kind of div that would go back and do it again.
26-03-2006, 06:30 PM
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Yeah now he is freed, he seems a bit odd. Gotta say hes being a bit funny 
If i was rescued by the SAS i would be kissing there feet to say thank you!!!! lol
If i was rescued by the SAS i would be kissing there feet to say thank you!!!! lol
26-03-2006, 06:32 PM
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He's a tosser, what they did for him and all he bleats on about is he doesn't believe in war. No thanks to the guys who put there lives on the line to get the old bag of bones back 
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26-03-2006, 06:46 PM
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He was a twat for going over there in the 1st place. Did more harm than good.
I don't think they should have given him the time of day. Even if his captors had let him go and rang up the army to say pick him up, they should have told them to make the old shite hitch-hike home.
I don't think they should have given him the time of day. Even if his captors had let him go and rang up the army to say pick him up, they should have told them to make the old shite hitch-hike home.
26-03-2006, 06:46 PM
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it makes me mad at the money wasted for a silly old fuck who hates war to be rescued by soliders, send the dickhead back and let him sort his own release
26-03-2006, 06:48 PM
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He's a silly old bastard who should have had the fucking brains not to have gone out there in the first place.
Prick. If he'd have got his head cut off it'd have been his own poxy fault. Wasted the time and resources of how many people to get his sorry ass out ?
Wanker.
Prick. If he'd have got his head cut off it'd have been his own poxy fault. Wasted the time and resources of how many people to get his sorry ass out ?
Wanker.
26-03-2006, 07:05 PM
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Get him back in his orange jump suit and give him back!!! 
Nah, to be honest the boys would have been glad to go in and get him!! Something to do!! lol.
Remember the last rescue........ The two SAS boys..
Nah, to be honest the boys would have been glad to go in and get him!! Something to do!! lol.
Remember the last rescue........ The two SAS boys..
26-03-2006, 07:17 PM
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should not have been there.
i think its a bit like when people go up a big fook off mountain with a vest and shorts on etc...and then they need rescuing.
they all just need to sit down and think of what might happen and are they prepared for the worst.
Same as the 'do-gooders'.
cannot do this,cannot do that....look at the way this country is going.
some people just have not got a clue what the fook is going on!
i think its a bit like when people go up a big fook off mountain with a vest and shorts on etc...and then they need rescuing.
they all just need to sit down and think of what might happen and are they prepared for the worst.
Same as the 'do-gooders'.
cannot do this,cannot do that....look at the way this country is going.
some people just have not got a clue what the fook is going on!
26-03-2006, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
should not have been there.
i think its a bit like when people go up a big fook off mountain with a vest and shorts on etc...and then they need rescuing.
they all just need to sit down and think of what might happen and are they prepared for the worst.
Same as the 'do-gooders'.
cannot do this,cannot do that....look at the way this country is going.
some people just have not got a clue what the fook is going on!
i think its a bit like when people go up a big fook off mountain with a vest and shorts on etc...and then they need rescuing.
they all just need to sit down and think of what might happen and are they prepared for the worst.
Same as the 'do-gooders'.
cannot do this,cannot do that....look at the way this country is going.
some people just have not got a clue what the fook is going on!
26-03-2006, 07:26 PM
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typical peace campainers, when the shit hits the fan they need help, just hope his dooo goody campain of people foots the bill, ha, what is the chance, hope the silly fuck and his silly friends pay dearly for their own lives not our boys out there
26-03-2006, 07:29 PM
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i agree with this thread 100%.why do these idiot do gooders think they can change things,you cant reason with terrorists,our soldiers should be able to do their thing without the threat of legal action on their return.its a war not a queensbury rules boxing match
26-03-2006, 07:31 PM
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Does seem an odd chap. But then I suppose you have to be a little blinkered or of an unusual mindset to visit Iraq as a civilian anyway. Regardless of your good intentions.
However, I do wonder if theres an element of Stockholm syndrome going on there.
Fuzzy, re the legal issue. As long as our Troops behave as we would expect them to, they will be OK. If they get daft (like certain parts of the US Army clearly have) and start shooting unarmed civilians. I would prefer it if they didnt seve in our Forces. As it tarnishes the reputation of everyone. Which conversely puts the rest of our people at risk as it increases anti UK sentiment amongst the local population.
However, I do wonder if theres an element of Stockholm syndrome going on there.
Fuzzy, re the legal issue. As long as our Troops behave as we would expect them to, they will be OK. If they get daft (like certain parts of the US Army clearly have) and start shooting unarmed civilians. I would prefer it if they didnt seve in our Forces. As it tarnishes the reputation of everyone. Which conversely puts the rest of our people at risk as it increases anti UK sentiment amongst the local population.
26-03-2006, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
i agree with this thread 100%.why do these idiot do gooders think they can change things,you cant reason with terrorists,our soldiers should be able to do their thing without the threat of legal action on their return.its a war not a queensbury rules boxing match
26-03-2006, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by peteh
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but why our troops are still there gets me, leave um to it i say
but why our troops are still there gets me, leave um to it i say
26-03-2006, 08:10 PM
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As much as I agree with him being an ungrateful old bastid, he's an Englishman at the end of the day, even if its a daft one he's still worth saving from what can possibly be the worst way to die imaginable.
But to go out there at his age he must have a tile out in the first place, I can think of many places I'd like to be at 70 odd, a war zone isnt one of them
But to go out there at his age he must have a tile out in the first place, I can think of many places I'd like to be at 70 odd, a war zone isnt one of them
26-03-2006, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by teamfatboy
Matt J for what possible reason could his life worth the life of others, 70yr old idiot
Ultimately, no one persons life is "worth" more than anybody elses. However in the same way that Kember decided he would accept the risk by going to Iraq. Anybody in the Forces should understand they may end up injured, or worse, in the line of action. If you don't want that risk, dont join up.
26-03-2006, 08:19 PM
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I agree with the general sentiments of this thread ie, the he shouldn't have gone out there in the first place. By doing so he was only putting his own life and any potential rescuers lives in jeopardy. There are a lot of westerners in Iraq, most of those are there cos they can earn a lot of money in short time. I think that unless he had a good reason for being there, then he should have been prevented from going in the first place.
Whether I agree with our troops being out there is another matter but what it does show is that all the members of the forces out there are bloody heroes, no way I would want to be in their shoes.
Whether I agree with our troops being out there is another matter but what it does show is that all the members of the forces out there are bloody heroes, no way I would want to be in their shoes.
26-03-2006, 08:22 PM
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Matt J for what possible reason could his life worth the life of others, 70yr old idiot
All I said was just cause he made the foolish decision to go out there doesnt disqualify him from being rescued, He's still one of our own at the end of the day, and even if he is a bit of a fool I wouldnt wish him death by decapitation a la rusty bread knife like the others
26-03-2006, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by S1
IThere are a lot of westerners in Iraq, most of those are there cos they can earn a lot of money in short time. I think that unless he had a good reason for being there, then he should have been prevented from going in the first place.