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Old 26-03-2006, 08:23 PM
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he's an Englishman at the end of the day, even if its a daft one he's still worth saving from what can possibly be the worst way to die imaginable.

Notice this "English" gentleman never even uttered a word for the poor American that was blasted to death who was with him. Truely a man(if you can call it that) worth saving
Old 26-03-2006, 08:30 PM
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sorry if i mis quoted, regardless of who they are or their intentions, they have no right to be in a war zone, we cant stumble down the road to join a unit, you have to activly be there and the risks are apparent as u are aware of before you arrive
Old 26-03-2006, 08:35 PM
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fuck him being english, he should be in the uk where english people are. not some risk to our boys
Old 27-03-2006, 08:18 AM
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It amazes me how the prime minister went to Ken Bigleys Funeral but hasn't been to any of the 100+ British troops that have died in Iraq
Old 27-03-2006, 09:18 AM
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He should be sent the bill to cover the costs of his rescue. Do Gooding moron.
Old 27-03-2006, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Rich_w
Originally Posted by teamfatboy
Matt J for what possible reason could his life worth the life of others, 70yr old idiot
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Ultimately, no one persons life is "worth" more than anybody elses.
From a pure military aspect, saving kember was a pointless waste of resources. But that was a political decision - rightly or wrongly.

Originally Posted by Rich_w
However in the same way that Kember decided he would accept the risk by going to Iraq. Anybody in the Forces should understand they may end up injured, or worse, in the line of action. If you don't want that risk, dont join up.
Difference is Kember was getting £10k a month for those risks, whereas the most junior Army lads getting shot at every day can take home less than a grand a month.

Very few forces people do the job purely for the money and most will give thier live if thats whats demanded of them. What they want is a bit of recognition and respect for the jobs they do, and a little bit of gratitude when they go beyond the call of duty wouldn't go amiss.

Its idiots like Kember that help demoralise troops, and they wonder why retention is at an all time low?

Thats one thing the Americans do well is look after thier troops. The Armed forces are held in high regard as a whole by the Americans, and as such people are proud to serve there.

In the UK the public perception is bad and most people don't seem to give a flying fuck about the personal sacrifice the individuals make. Imagine how that feels for the troops asked to risk thier lives????
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
Originally Posted by Rich_w
Originally Posted by teamfatboy
Matt J for what possible reason could his life worth the life of others, 70yr old idiot
(Devils Advocate this post)

Ultimately, no one persons life is "worth" more than anybody elses.
From a pure military aspect, saving kember was a pointless waste of resources. But that was a political decision - rightly or wrongly.

Originally Posted by Rich_w
However in the same way that Kember decided he would accept the risk by going to Iraq. Anybody in the Forces should understand they may end up injured, or worse, in the line of action. If you don't want that risk, dont join up.
Difference is Kember was getting £10k a month for those risks, whereas the most junior Army lads getting shot at every day can take home less than a grand a month.

Very few forces people do the job purely for the money and most will give thier live if thats whats demanded of them. What they want is a bit of recognition and respect for the jobs they do, and a little bit of gratitude when they go beyond the call of duty wouldn't go amiss.

Its idiots like Kember that help demoralise troops, and they wonder why retention is at an all time low?

Thats one thing the Americans do well is look after thier troops. The Armed forces are held in high regard as a whole by the Americans, and as such people are proud to serve there.

In the UK the public perception is bad and most people don't seem to give a flying fuck about the personal sacrifice the individuals make. Imagine how that feels for the troops asked to risk thier lives????
Couldn't have put it better myself.
How do you think we feel when a few idiots give everyone else the impression that we all give a good kicking to everyone in Iraq we see.
I so love the press and all the support they give us
Old 27-03-2006, 03:10 PM
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Seaworld in Florida allows free admission to people serving in their forces, and pay tribute to them and their allies before every show. It sounds really cheesy, but I think they and the punters really do mean it.

This old fool has no right going off to a war zone, and if he had been an Asian Brit instead of a white Brit he could have been flown straight to Guantanamo Bay!!!

Maybe he still could be?
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