Help obsolete part required for my XR3i
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Help obsolete part required for my XR3i
Hi There.
My XR3i needs Idle control valve air flow for xr3i k series engine. None electronic.specific to year 1989, which is the best place to find one preferably new, plenty on E Bay, but Ford say the wrong ones
Help appreciated
My XR3i needs Idle control valve air flow for xr3i k series engine. None electronic.specific to year 1989, which is the best place to find one preferably new, plenty on E Bay, but Ford say the wrong ones
Help appreciated
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no1fanofcolin (05-02-2015)
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No worries... but honestly just open the bonnet and look, its either on the inlet manifold or remotely mounted on the bulk head Ford will want quite a bit of money I suspect. If the valve on ebay looks the same it will work. Ford only used a couple of variants and they all looked pretty different so you can't really go wrong.
Good luck
Rob,
Good luck
Rob,
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Bought this part on their request, but they say is wrong one
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130749705417
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130749705417
No worries... but honestly just open the bonnet and look, its either on the inlet manifold or remotely mounted on the bulk head Ford will want quite a bit of money I suspect. If the valve on ebay looks the same it will work. Ford only used a couple of variants and they all looked pretty different so you can't really go wrong.
Good luck
Rob,
Good luck
Rob,
#6
Bought this part on their request, but they say is wrong one
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130749705417
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130749705417
this is the one
http://www.fordmanuals.org/page-1067.html
and there is a s/h one available
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ESCORT-MK3...item1c4165ff83
TBH i'd be surprised if this was the cause of a non-start - it was just a late breather hack for when the heated screen etc loaded the alternator, reducing idle speed.
You can easily test the theory; when it fails to start, when you crank it over, apply appx 1+-cm of pressure on the accellerator and hold.
I think you would be better taking this to Tony @ turbosystems or Stu @ MSD, they would have this fixed with much less pain.
Good luck
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Thanks, pain you are right never had any probs with her over 26 years, never used her so much, but now over two years have gone from 30.000 to over 50.000 parts obviously wearing, hope prob sorted soon, just emailed suggestion to manager of Ford service who is doing his best to help part required is Idle control valve air flow for xr3i k series engine. None electronic this was part that came up on diagnosis
this is the one
http://www.fordmanuals.org/page-1067.html
and there is a s/h one available
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ESCORT-MK3...item1c4165ff83
TBH i'd be surprised if this was the cause of a non-start - it was just a late breather hack for when the heated screen etc loaded the alternator, reducing idle speed.
You can easily test the theory; when it fails to start, when you crank it over, apply appx 1+-cm of pressure on the accellerator and hold.
I think you would be better taking this to Tony @ turbosystems or Stu @ MSD, they would have this fixed with much less pain.
Good luck
http://www.fordmanuals.org/page-1067.html
and there is a s/h one available
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ESCORT-MK3...item1c4165ff83
TBH i'd be surprised if this was the cause of a non-start - it was just a late breather hack for when the heated screen etc loaded the alternator, reducing idle speed.
You can easily test the theory; when it fails to start, when you crank it over, apply appx 1+-cm of pressure on the accellerator and hold.
I think you would be better taking this to Tony @ turbosystems or Stu @ MSD, they would have this fixed with much less pain.
Good luck
Last edited by no1fanofcolin; 05-02-2015 at 10:00 PM.
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#8
Nice to hear you've had it 26 years! And quite cool in a way that Ford still look after it.
Be good to see se pics, can't be many low mileage, (assuming?) one owner xr3i's about!
Be good to see se pics, can't be many low mileage, (assuming?) one owner xr3i's about!
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What the hell is a k series engine?(sounds like you've stuck a rover engine into the car....?) I assume you mean the CVH engine? with K jetronic management........
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Yes I am getting a bit confused too lol The part you need will depend on whether you have mechanical or electronic injection. Think 89 will be MFI..?
Does you engine bay look like this:
Or like this:
Either way, best of luck and if Ford don't sort it I'm sure someone here can
Rob,
Does you engine bay look like this:
Or like this:
Either way, best of luck and if Ford don't sort it I'm sure someone here can
Rob,
Last edited by Rob_DOHC; 06-02-2015 at 10:02 PM.
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this is the one
TBH i'd be surprised if this was the cause of a non-start - it was just a late breather hack for when the heated screen etc loaded the alternator, reducing idle speed.
You can easily test the theory; when it fails to start, when you crank it over, apply appx 1+-cm of pressure on the accellerator and hold.
Good luck
TBH i'd be surprised if this was the cause of a non-start - it was just a late breather hack for when the heated screen etc loaded the alternator, reducing idle speed.
You can easily test the theory; when it fails to start, when you crank it over, apply appx 1+-cm of pressure on the accellerator and hold.
Good luck
But if that is the case, and the car is MFI any air leak present when cranking can stop the metering unit flap being pulled down by the correct amount, pushing the throttle down wont help much. However pressing the large flap down by a few MM will.
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Thank you Nathan, seems to be the one as it is non electric, but need new one if possible
this is the one
http://www.fordmanuals.org/page-1067.html
and there is a s/h one available
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ESCORT-MK3...item1c4165ff83
TBH i'd be surprised if this was the cause of a non-start - it was just a late breather hack for when the heated screen etc loaded the alternator, reducing idle speed.
You can easily test the theory; when it fails to start, when you crank it over, apply appx 1+-cm of pressure on the accellerator and hold.
I think you would be better taking this to Tony @ turbosystems or Stu @ MSD, they would have this fixed with much less pain.
Good luck
http://www.fordmanuals.org/page-1067.html
and there is a s/h one available
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ESCORT-MK3...item1c4165ff83
TBH i'd be surprised if this was the cause of a non-start - it was just a late breather hack for when the heated screen etc loaded the alternator, reducing idle speed.
You can easily test the theory; when it fails to start, when you crank it over, apply appx 1+-cm of pressure on the accellerator and hold.
I think you would be better taking this to Tony @ turbosystems or Stu @ MSD, they would have this fixed with much less pain.
Good luck
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The first one MFI
Yes I am getting a bit confused too lol The part you need will depend on whether you have mechanical or electronic injection. Think 89 will be MFI..?
Does you engine bay look like this:
Or like this:
Either way, best of luck and if Ford don't sort it I'm sure someone here can
Rob,
Does you engine bay look like this:
Or like this:
Either way, best of luck and if Ford don't sort it I'm sure someone here can
Rob,
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#18
This thread is good for shits 'n' giggles
lol
lolz, I think Colin's no1 fan might not be a he
... but you never know ..
Here you go Rob
https://passionford.com/forum/genera...arm-start.html
pmsl, err...no. You're confused again - pull up for XR K and down for RS KE, remember... lolz
That is a really nice car, hope you get it all fixed soon
lolz, I think Colin's no1 fan might not be a he
... but you never know ..
Here you go Rob
https://passionford.com/forum/genera...arm-start.html
That is a really nice car, hope you get it all fixed soon
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pmsl, err...no. You're confused again - pull up for XR K and down for RS KE, remember... lolz
lolz, I think Colin's no1 fan might not be a he
Rob,
Last edited by Rob_DOHC; 11-02-2015 at 04:18 PM.
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Yes that looks more like what I though you were talking about, it lives under the inlet manifold on the RS Turbo so I assume it is in a similar location on the XR3i. I doubt you will be able to buy a new one any where, however you should be able to find a good used one, annoyingly I had one attached to a manifold which I binned recently other wise you could have had it for free
For your info, and to help the search they were also fitted to Porsche 924's and some 944.
Here is a used one for sale, from a Corsa of all things!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-C...25.m3641.l6393
Best of luck with the hunt.
Rob,
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no1fanofcolin (11-02-2015)
#22
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Thank you, just emailed Ford the link, finally persuaded them to fit second hand part as new one not available anywhere, oh that's a pity the manifold was binned with the part on
Hiya,
Yes that looks more like what I though you were talking about, it lives under the inlet manifold on the RS Turbo so I assume it is in a similar location on the XR3i. I doubt you will be able to buy a new one any where, however you should be able to find a good used one, annoyingly I had one attached to a manifold which I binned recently other wise you could have had it for free
For your info, and to help the search they were also fitted to Porsche 924's and some 944.
Here is a used one for sale, from a Corsa of all things!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-C...25.m3641.l6393
Best of luck with the hunt.
Rob,
Yes that looks more like what I though you were talking about, it lives under the inlet manifold on the RS Turbo so I assume it is in a similar location on the XR3i. I doubt you will be able to buy a new one any where, however you should be able to find a good used one, annoyingly I had one attached to a manifold which I binned recently other wise you could have had it for free
For your info, and to help the search they were also fitted to Porsche 924's and some 944.
Here is a used one for sale, from a Corsa of all things!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-C...25.m3641.l6393
Best of luck with the hunt.
Rob,
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Good stuff, I hope they sort if for you
If they don't I would definitely go and see motorsport developments in blackpool, I suspect they know more about MFI in all of its forms than the majority of people at Ford.
http://www.motorsport-developments.co.uk/
Rob,
If they don't I would definitely go and see motorsport developments in blackpool, I suspect they know more about MFI in all of its forms than the majority of people at Ford.
http://www.motorsport-developments.co.uk/
Rob,
#24
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Thanks Rob, part is ordered, hopefully will solve prob
Hiya,
Yes that looks more like what I though you were talking about, it lives under the inlet manifold on the RS Turbo so I assume it is in a similar location on the XR3i. I doubt you will be able to buy a new one any where, however you should be able to find a good used one, annoyingly I had one attached to a manifold which I binned recently other wise you could have had it for free
For your info, and to help the search they were also fitted to Porsche 924's and some 944.
Here is a used one for sale, from a Corsa of all things!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-C...25.m3641.l6393
Best of luck with the hunt.
Rob,
Yes that looks more like what I though you were talking about, it lives under the inlet manifold on the RS Turbo so I assume it is in a similar location on the XR3i. I doubt you will be able to buy a new one any where, however you should be able to find a good used one, annoyingly I had one attached to a manifold which I binned recently other wise you could have had it for free
For your info, and to help the search they were also fitted to Porsche 924's and some 944.
Here is a used one for sale, from a Corsa of all things!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-C...25.m3641.l6393
Best of luck with the hunt.
Rob,
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Thats an auxiliary air valve.
If its jammed open (usual case) then you'd have a high idle.
It its jammed shut then the car will struggle to idle at very cold, but once warm the AAV shuts anyway (operated by a bimettalic strip).
So don't think this will be the cause of your non-running issues.
If its jammed open (usual case) then you'd have a high idle.
It its jammed shut then the car will struggle to idle at very cold, but once warm the AAV shuts anyway (operated by a bimettalic strip).
So don't think this will be the cause of your non-running issues.
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This is the part that came up on Ford diagnosis, already have had starter motor and fuel pump relay, she starts. but struggles sometimes not 100% as Ford put it and once cut out on the road, just the once, first started when filling up at the petrol station after a 25 mile run, she struggled and had to wait a minute, that was when I had all the parts put in to rectify it
Thats an auxiliary air valve.
If its jammed open (usual case) then you'd have a high idle.
It its jammed shut then the car will struggle to idle at very cold, but once warm the AAV shuts anyway (operated by a bimettalic strip).
So don't think this will be the cause of your non-running issues.
If its jammed open (usual case) then you'd have a high idle.
It its jammed shut then the car will struggle to idle at very cold, but once warm the AAV shuts anyway (operated by a bimettalic strip).
So don't think this will be the cause of your non-running issues.
#27
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Bought the part waiting for Ford to fit it someone on another site said it looked electrical, but Ford said it looked like the correct one so give it a try, oh do hope it is MFi been looking for it for weeks
Hiya,
Yes that looks more like what I though you were talking about, it lives under the inlet manifold on the RS Turbo so I assume it is in a similar location on the XR3i. I doubt you will be able to buy a new one any where, however you should be able to find a good used one, annoyingly I had one attached to a manifold which I binned recently other wise you could have had it for free
For your info, and to help the search they were also fitted to Porsche 924's and some 944.
Here is a used one for sale, from a Corsa of all things!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-C...25.m3641.l6393
Best of luck with the hunt.
Rob,
Yes that looks more like what I though you were talking about, it lives under the inlet manifold on the RS Turbo so I assume it is in a similar location on the XR3i. I doubt you will be able to buy a new one any where, however you should be able to find a good used one, annoyingly I had one attached to a manifold which I binned recently other wise you could have had it for free
For your info, and to help the search they were also fitted to Porsche 924's and some 944.
Here is a used one for sale, from a Corsa of all things!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-C...25.m3641.l6393
Best of luck with the hunt.
Rob,
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no1fanofcolin (05-03-2015)
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Many Thanks Rob, the part you found worked and now my XR3i is finally back on the road
Hiya,
Yes that looks more like what I though you were talking about, it lives under the inlet manifold on the RS Turbo so I assume it is in a similar location on the XR3i. I doubt you will be able to buy a new one any where, however you should be able to find a good used one, annoyingly I had one attached to a manifold which I binned recently other wise you could have had it for free
For your info, and to help the search they were also fitted to Porsche 924's and some 944.
Here is a used one for sale, from a Corsa of all things!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-C...25.m3641.l6393
Best of luck with the hunt.
Rob,
Yes that looks more like what I though you were talking about, it lives under the inlet manifold on the RS Turbo so I assume it is in a similar location on the XR3i. I doubt you will be able to buy a new one any where, however you should be able to find a good used one, annoyingly I had one attached to a manifold which I binned recently other wise you could have had it for free
For your info, and to help the search they were also fitted to Porsche 924's and some 944.
Here is a used one for sale, from a Corsa of all things!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-C...25.m3641.l6393
Best of luck with the hunt.
Rob,
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no1fanofcolin (19-03-2015)
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Well she has been starting fine, first time filled with petrol no probs after a 5 min journey, but today filled with petrol after an hour journey and she hesitated, turned over twice, and had to pump the gas, I did not overfill what is it with filling petrol starting and hesitation, in her 26 years never had that prob lol got her back home turned engine off put on again and she started immediately
Last edited by no1fanofcolin; 19-03-2015 at 05:58 PM.
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Oh no I hope its a one off!
It is still very worth while getting the car setup every few years, the mechanical fuel injection can drift out of calibration with time. If your ever in Blackpool Motor sport developments would be able to do this very easily.
Rob,
It is still very worth while getting the car setup every few years, the mechanical fuel injection can drift out of calibration with time. If your ever in Blackpool Motor sport developments would be able to do this very easily.
Rob,
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no1fanofcolin (08-04-2015)
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Well been on the road 3 weeks, running great and faster than ever, thanks again Rob the part you found solved the prob starting every time
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Well she's been ok 2 months, on road every day, filled at petrol station today and took 10 mins to start, after 50 mile drive, she's not too keen starting up immediately after switching off was ok when engine cooled, had full service and MOT couple of weeks ago, passed first time
Last edited by no1fanofcolin; 10-06-2015 at 05:39 PM.
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She still has prob with warm start been ok since new part fitted, but now need fuel pressure regulator any links to where I can find one welcome, she is 1989 model MFI
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