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Old 20-12-2005, 10:54 PM
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hi guys just wonderin wat u think of these motors as im 18 n am in the process of sellin my escort gti and im luvin the sierra at the mo the escort was such a nice n smooth ride but the sierra jus looks the nutz and just feels right 4me, ive got a s/s exhaust with 16's decked and saph cossie back lights cheerz guys
Old 21-12-2005, 12:38 AM
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Well I don't really know anything about the performance of the 2000e to be honest, but you say it feels right for you then so be it. In the end it doesn't really matter what anyone else thinks mate, I'm glad you're enjoying your Saff. Oh and yeah, I agree the Saffs look good, but then I would wouln't I.
Old 21-12-2005, 10:07 AM
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Theres plenty of nice replicas around if you can't afford a real one
Old 21-12-2005, 04:34 PM
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take the engine out and put a mk5/6rs2000 engine in it and you will thank me as the old 8v dohc 2000e engine is shit, the 2000e is was the best spec`d sierra fords had at one point and are still nice motors.

mt dad and i had one and in a whole year of motoring and the odd sideways all we ever done to it was an oil and filter change........used to be owned by a guy on here too
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yeah mate,turn it into a rep mate,i had too!everyone who didnt own a cossie thought it was real,lol
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nice motors,had 1 many moons ago
Old 01-01-2006, 03:45 PM
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Hi Whitley, you aren't the first to miss the fact that this is a Sierra/Sapphire Cosworth forum and I doubt you'll be the last. Anyway, good luck with your 2000E, apparently the grey leather is unique to the 2000E and very nice indeed. But personally I'd have stuck to the Escort GTi, but that's just me
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I also had one of these when i was 18 was a very cool car just put all the cossie bits on and they look just as good after owning mine i just got the sierra bug ie 1x xr4i 3x saffy cossies and a 3dr just cant beat them
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i took a different route to sierra ownership was 21 and brought a 2.8 xr4x4 in red totally standard lookin motor till you opened the bonnet and there sat a turbo technics conversion very nice very thirsty very unreliable lol
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Originally Posted by Stealth Bomber
Hi Whitley, you aren't the first to miss the fact that this is a Sierra/Sapphire Cosworth forum and I doubt you'll be the last. Anyway, good luck with your 2000E very nice indeed.
its not just for cosworths mate
Old 02-01-2006, 04:22 PM
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ages ago there was a 2000e with a cossie engine in for 1500quid.that would be cool.beatin a real cossie with a 2000e!
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Originally Posted by JezSierra
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Hi Whitley, you aren't the first to miss the fact that this is a Sierra/Sapphire Cosworth forum and I doubt you'll be the last. Anyway, good luck with your 2000E very nice indeed.
its not just for cosworths mate
Yes it is, read the title. How's about you go post about a 1.6L in the RS Turbo forum?
Old 03-01-2006, 08:40 AM
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Since you're 18, insurance will be high on this Sierra, since it's probably a Cat 18. So, expect to be paying some high sums.

I disagree about the 2.0 I4 being junk, but if you must do ONE modification, make sure you wire the electric fans to be on all the time.

These engines will blow head gaskets if they overheat, and usually it's due to the fan switch giving up the ghost. You will thank me for it later. Also change the radiator fluid once a year, and change the timing chain & tensioner as soon as you buy it - then change that once every five years (you'd probably have flogged it by then).
Old 03-01-2006, 09:48 AM
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hi safs are mint mate im also 18 but i have a saph cossie 2wd
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xr4timan the 2000e engine is NOT the I4 engine the rs2000 engine is which is why i said put it in and obviously i dont think they`re junk cos i own a mk5 rs2000 and i had a 2000e so i know the difference
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Originally Posted by the saint
xr4timan the 2000e engine is NOT the I4 engine the rs2000 engine is which is why i said put it in and obviously i dont think they`re junk cos i own a mk5 rs2000 and i had a 2000e so i know the difference
it is

the I4 came in 8V form in the granada's first, then the sierra's,
then they made the transition to the 16V head in the RS2000
after that there were limited (as in 2 months worth) of mondeo's and granada's with them in the 8V but with edis setup before they were ALL 16V motors
they had less power than the escorts due to different cams etc
they also did them in a 2.3 in the later years
these engines also graced transits in various forms for a few years

there is a NEW I4 numbered engine as in the newest generation of ford 16v'ers but thats totaly different

the fan switch needs to be replaced, if you go to ford and get on from a 1.8 TD mondeo they run much cooler and the fans will kick in at 95c and not 110c but make sure the fans are working first by shorting out the terminals left top/bottom and right top/bottom for each fan at the switch
turn the ignition off before you put the wires in and then turn it on to see if the fans work

after that you need to go and change the timing chain, they snap with litaraly no notice whatsoever, and when they go you can say goodbye to the engine as it's not just the valves it will trash, they almost certainly snap no1 main cap
Ł120 should see you with all the bits you need

and if it's overheating, get it sorted sooner rather than later, sooner because you can catch the problem before you need a new head when the other one distorts like action man in the microwave
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thanks for that mate i stand corrected........... but i still think the 2000e engine is shit

i just thought that the engine was a dohc pinto is it chain driven like the rs2k engine??? i never needed to take mine apart which is about all that was good about the engine reliable
Old 03-01-2006, 07:21 PM
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it was designed for economy rather than power, and economy it give by the bucket load

the dohc pinto is the cossie engine (unless you get a piper head or even a warrior 16V conversion hidden away somewhere )

the bottom end is EXACTLY the same as the RS2K, even down to the pistons with the 4 valve cutouts
the only problem is that it's longitudinaly mounted, not tranvserly so you can't plonk it into the escort

there are a few people out there who have experimented with this engine (like me ) and should be ready to drop 180 bhp of 2.3 into the front of a sierra in the not to distant future not bad for an outlay of one sierra and about Ł300 for the bits and a bit of a rebuilding time
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Dojj,

SapphyMike had a RS2000-powered Sapphy, and if I remember correctly he wasn't too impressed.

Obviously the late Scorpio or even the Galaxy 2.3 16v w/ balance shafts is beautiful thing. Too bad those never made it to a Sierra.

I had a Sierra Sapphire Ghia 4x4 w/ the I4 prior.
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mr gracelands had a rs2k powered sierra too, then ht ebolted a turbo onto the side of it

i'll see what mine puts out in the real world when it gets bolted together, until then, i'll just have to dream
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