When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.
As far as I am aware Saffs front windscreen has an in-built aerial, never seen a roof mounted one and I am glad you took the BMW style one off your roof, it looked horrendous!!
Had my 2wd Saff for 23 years, never had a roof aerial.
I did wonder, I've been through Google and the data base on here and not found one picture.
What you say about the windscreen aerial is interesting as the radio won't pick up any signal but is connected to a lead
but what that goes to is now in question.
I did wonder, I've been through Google and the data base on here and not found one picture.
What you say about the windscreen aerial is interesting as the radio won't pick up any signal but is connected to a lead
but what that goes to is now in question.
thanks
Maybe there was a problem with the one in the windscreen and as a replacement one is expensive and not that easy to get the previous owner opted for the cheaper in roof aerial?
I did wonder, I've been through Google and the data base on here and not found one picture.
What you say about the windscreen aerial is interesting as the radio won't pick up any signal but is connected to a lead
but what that goes to is now in question.
thanks
The amplifier should be the first thing you check (beneath the back window) it should have an ignition switched live.
The first Saph's (non Cosworth) had the aerial on the offside rear wing.
Originally Posted by cossynut2
As far as I am aware Saffs front windscreen has an in-built aerial, never seen a roof mounted one and I am glad you took the BMW style one off your roof, it looked horrendous!!
Had my 2wd Saff for 23 years, never had a roof aerial.
The rear window contains the aerial, a good idea which was done to prevent vandalism.
Do 4x4's also have this amplifier as I have never noticed it in the near 20 years I have owned my car. (interestingly my signal also appears to be fairly weak) I would also be interested in a photo of the exact location. Thanks David
Qed your screen looks like it don't have the aerial in it.
will dig a pic out of mine to show difference.
Looking at his photo again I think you are right, the original rear screen has been changed to one without an inbuilt aerial. Just looked at mine again.
Good spot....only piece of glass not engraved as well.
Thanks for the info....got the amp so must have been broken at some point.
If you don't want another roof aerial looks like a new ( or good used ) rear
Windscreen is the only answer. Wonder why when the original one got broken the owner did'nt insist on the correct one being fitted?
Mine also unfortunately has a roof aeriel fitted, I can only assume this was done for a mobile phone as the holes are in the dash where the phone would have gone. Im also going down the route where I will have to have it plated & painted.
Just for reference, the heated element is the aerial. The banding round the edge that you can see is on all versions.
on the pre Jan 1990 models it was visible, Ford just moved it when the face lifted the car in 1990.
if you go to the amp box under the shelf trim, the wires go straight from that to the window element connections. I would check the small feed wire to the amplifier as that is what powers the aerial part up. It is normally red/white and is also in the back of the radio. If this is good, most likely the amplifier box is dead. Even if some of the heated elements are not working on the window, there is still a circuit for the aerial.
Last edited by iansoutham; 15-04-2018 at 09:33 AM.
I wonder if Martin (Martysmartie) or Ian (Iansoutham) or anyone else for that matter, can confirm when the red/white wire (30-29 on the schematic) is supposed to be live. Martin mentioned that it is an ignition switched live, but I am wondering why it is supplied via the radio and not just switched via the ignition. My thoughts are that it is possibly only live when the radio (as opposed to CD etc) is on perhaps like the electric aerial drive feed they used to put out on stereos. My car (1990 4x4) had had a different head unit fitted before I purchased it 18 years ago, and over the weekend I was fitting a different unit and noticed the red/white wire is not connected at all. Although I haven't checked at the amplifier yet, I am assuming this is therefor unpowered, which would account for my weak signal mentioned in a post further up. Interestingly the radio works perfectly well when there is a strong signal around, only breaking up a bit when I get close to home which is in a bit of a valley. I mention this because I wonder how many others have fitted a new head unit and only connected up the battery and ignition feeds and a ground, possibly the lighting feed (grey/yellow) if needed and not realised what the other wires were for. (aerial amp feed and alarm) I will attach the diagram again in case that helps. I had attached this and a couple of others related in another post by qed296 asking about his stereo wiring which can be found here. https://passionford.com/forum/techni...tion-help.html . Thanks David
I wonder if Martin (Martysmartie) or Ian (Iansoutham) or anyone else for that matter, can confirm when the red/white wire (30-29 on the schematic) is supposed to be live. Martin mentioned that it is an ignition switched live, but I am wondering why it is supplied via the radio and not just switched via the ignition. My thoughts are that it is possibly only live when the radio (as opposed to CD etc) is on perhaps like the electric aerial drive feed they used to put out on stereos. My car (1990 4x4) had had a different head unit fitted before I purchased it 18 years ago, and over the weekend I was fitting a different unit and noticed the red/white wire is not connected at all. Although I haven't checked at the amplifier yet, I am assuming this is therefor unpowered, which would account for my weak signal mentioned in a post further up. Interestingly the radio works perfectly well when there is a strong signal around, only breaking up a bit when I get close to home which is in a bit of a valley. I mention this because I wonder how many others have fitted a new head unit and only connected up the battery and ignition feeds and a ground, possibly the lighting feed (grey/yellow) if needed and not realised what the other wires were for. (aerial amp feed and alarm) I will attach the diagram again in case that helps. I had attached this and a couple of others related in another post by qed296 asking about his stereo wiring which can be found here. https://passionford.com/forum/techni...tion-help.html . Thanks David
Ok, so he does have the correct screen, therefore back to my original suggestion of checking the amplifier.
I guessed it would be from the ignition radio feed, but from the diagram it appears it's an actual output from the head unit, as you say.
OP should check whether there is power in the first instance and then can troubleshoot accordingly.
29-03-2018, 09:15 PM
Roof aerial
