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SmudgerByName 29-02-2016 07:42 AM

Cosworth Spec... What's the Next Step
 
Right Guys,

As some of you know, Cossie ownership has its ups and down. Mostly ups but now I'm thinking I would like a bit more out of the Engine. Currently running a NMS Stage 3+ Tune (T34 Turbo, Green Injectors etc) and running around 340/350 bhp as per previous Printouts. I love the car but just doesn't feel as Urgent as I thought it would. Either that or I am getting used to the power and now I'm looking for more. I'd like to hit the 400+ mark but since this is my first Cosworth I am wondering what the best way to go about it would be??

I know that Turbo Technology has changed massively since the car was originally tuned so looking to update it quite a bit.... Any advice??

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cossynut2 29-02-2016 09:27 PM

Should be fairly straight forward, New turbo ( lots of different ones to choose from), 83lb injectors, L8 ecu , pf09, Custom chip, wasted spark ignition, hart style inlet plenum, and a Bosche 044 fuel pump. That will see over 400 bhp with no problem.

Ade 29-02-2016 11:17 PM

Sort all your electrics if you want to get there easily and safely.
An Autodynamix engine loom makes a huge difference on these. Mine made 460bhp at MSD on greys. Most they'd ever had on those injectors!
T38, inlet cam, headwork, spaced 4x4 inlet, wasted spark L8 and all the usual stuff.

cossynut2 01-03-2016 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by Ade (Post 6660082)
Sort all your electrics if you want to get there easily and safely.
An Autodynamix engine loom makes a huge difference on these. Mine made 460bhp at MSD on greys. Most they'd ever had on those injectors!
T38, inlet cam, headwork, spaced 4x4 inlet, wasted spark L8 and all the usual stuff.

Wow!! A new engine loom made that much difference, 460 bhp on greys is amazing as they usually run out of puff around the 400 bhp mark. I have Siemens 83lb injectors to get similar bhp .How have you found the T38 ,as recently there has been a few people slating it on here ?

cossie2 01-03-2016 07:34 AM

i had smaller one ut t38 roller bearing..still have it but removed it cause didn't like how it drove..it is strong one but not much torque,468nm on siemens 83s..it lost that punch..

Ade 01-03-2016 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by cossynut2 (Post 6660098)
Wow!! A new engine loom made that much difference, 460 bhp on greys is amazing as they usually run out of puff around the 400 bhp mark. I have Siemens 83lb injectors to get similar bhp .How have you found the T38 ,as recently there has been a few people slating it on here ?

Everyone was pretty amazed! The electrics make a huge difference on these. Actually just put together a big feature for Fast Ford about exactly this subject, will be out the issue after next.

T38 I love. Yeah it's a non-event down low, but that's what a gearbox is for, lol.
Really progressive power delivery, relentless all the way to the redline. I much prefer is to the spikey delivery I had with a T34 previously.

cossynut2 01-03-2016 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by Ade (Post 6660200)
Everyone was pretty amazed! The electrics make a huge difference on these. Actually just put together a big feature for Fast Ford about exactly this subject, will be out the issue after next.

T38 I love. Yeah it's a non-event down low, but that's what a gearbox is for, lol.
Really progressive power delivery, relentless all the way to the redline. I much prefer is to the spikey delivery I had with a T34 previously.

I have a CR T38 with billet compressor and have been very pleased with it, virtually no lag and spools up really well. I have also got a new engine , fans and fuel pump loom plus wasted spark ignition.

rog 01-03-2016 09:33 PM

Depends on your budget, personally when I get around to looking at mine I'll be taking the T4 off and going for a EFR 7670 I think, there's a couple of threads about it on here if you want to have a look, it seems to be the most modern setup for that kind of power range, but as I understand it will be slightly more expensive for the turbo and exhaust manifold to suit as opposed to a T38.

Mad_Mat 02-03-2016 12:48 AM

Are you on a 200 block or 205 block.
205 block might limit you a bit.. :mmmh:

Adam-M 02-03-2016 07:44 AM

Ade your saff is bloody lovely, you'll need to take me out a run in it to see if I like the t38.


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