missing in action sapphire cosworths
24-11-2012, 08:35 PM
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missing in action sapphire cosworths
been looking for a decent sapp
hire now for a few months now but is there any good ones around at the 7k mark or do i wonder over to a focus rs as theres a few ive seen and very tempted please help me back into a rs again
hire now for a few months now but is there any good ones around at the 7k mark or do i wonder over to a focus rs as theres a few ive seen and very tempted please help me back into a rs again
25-11-2012, 09:21 AM
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Out of interest what sort of condition are 7k saphs in that you have been looking at?
I'd imagine they are owned by dreamers with overpriced crap but amongst them will be some decent cars.
Remember buying my 1st saph cos,looked at 1 in Warrington which was a shed then a 7k 2wd at some caravan place not far from warrington which was an absolute wreck,didn't start,had been painted with a stick,interior was hanging,flat tyres,bodkit was hanging off and the guy was on drugs.
Bought a mallard green 1 which was almost new as had Been built with everything new from ford which was mint for about Ł4000,got about Ł1500 of spares with it and when I sold the car I got Ł5000 for it.
I'd think now it must be very hard getting a saph since so many have been broken for their running gear
I'd imagine they are owned by dreamers with overpriced crap but amongst them will be some decent cars.
Remember buying my 1st saph cos,looked at 1 in Warrington which was a shed then a 7k 2wd at some caravan place not far from warrington which was an absolute wreck,didn't start,had been painted with a stick,interior was hanging,flat tyres,bodkit was hanging off and the guy was on drugs.
Bought a mallard green 1 which was almost new as had Been built with everything new from ford which was mint for about Ł4000,got about Ł1500 of spares with it and when I sold the car I got Ł5000 for it.
I'd think now it must be very hard getting a saph since so many have been broken for their running gear
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25-11-2012, 02:13 PM
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Saph all the way .. There was a crystal blue 2wd in a garage near me not long ago . 1 owner totally std
On the F plate . They wanted 10 g for it.
I've seen some proper sheds for same type of money.
On the F plate . They wanted 10 g for it.
I've seen some proper sheds for same type of money.
25-11-2012, 03:51 PM
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25-11-2012, 05:02 PM
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If it's a 4x4 your after than I think your have a better chance of finding a better one as there later than the 2wd
But either way 2wd or 4x4 are getting rarer and rarer to find a straight one!
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25-11-2012, 08:23 PM
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25-11-2012, 08:36 PM
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sounds so right lol but ive already sorted and modded her astra g coupe with all the irmscher kit lowered antracite wheels and its in the best colour blue too
27-11-2012, 05:12 PM
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looking at what looks like a nice saff saturday but seen a few on some sites and the money some are asking is outragous for the condition of the car or spec lol
27-11-2012, 05:26 PM
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In pretty much everyway.
Take both cars (assume both are mint)
The only thing done worse in a Focus is loading back seat passengers
They look better, go better, handle better, stop better.... The list goes on and on. The only really really good thing about a Cosworth is the engine, the rest is just Sierra Ghia stuff.
27-11-2012, 06:00 PM
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In pretty much everyway.
Take both cars (assume both are mint)
The only thing done worse in a Focus is loading back seat passengers
They look better, go better, handle better, stop better.... The list goes on and on. The only really really good thing about a Cosworth is the engine, the rest is just Sierra Ghia stuff.
In pretty much everyway.
Take both cars (assume both are mint)
The only thing done worse in a Focus is loading back seat passengers
They look better, go better, handle better, stop better.... The list goes on and on. The only really really good thing about a Cosworth is the engine, the rest is just Sierra Ghia stuff.
I have to totally agree with you, i also have had both recently and would choose the focus over a saph all day long. The focus does everything so much better.
27-11-2012, 06:18 PM
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the focus rs now is 9-10 years old and going for same money will they stay at the money or drop ???
27-11-2012, 06:32 PM
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I think they are both equally good investments but just be careful what you buy, the last few weeks i have seen 2 frs sell on ebay for circa Ł4k, any good ? i dont know, but i do know Ł6-7k will get you a nice modded one.
27-11-2012, 06:37 PM
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27-11-2012, 06:50 PM
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27-11-2012, 08:36 PM
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Mine is an ornament
If the market wasn't so crap at the moment, I'd probably have mine up for sale.
At least you know what you are letting yourself in for lol
You are right about value, I think the Focus will drop more, Sapphires are probably going to increase in value (for good ones).
If the market wasn't so crap at the moment, I'd probably have mine up for sale.
At least you know what you are letting yourself in for lol
You are right about value, I think the Focus will drop more, Sapphires are probably going to increase in value (for good ones).
27-11-2012, 08:44 PM
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Mine is an ornament
If the market wasn't so crap at the moment, I'd probably have mine up for sale.
At least you know what you are letting yourself in for lol
You are right about value, I think the Focus will drop more, Sapphires are probably going to increase in value (for good ones).
If the market wasn't so crap at the moment, I'd probably have mine up for sale.
At least you know what you are letting yourself in for lol
You are right about value, I think the Focus will drop more, Sapphires are probably going to increase in value (for good ones).
28-11-2012, 09:49 AM
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Take both cars (assume both are mint)
The only thing done worse in a Focus is loading back seat passengers
They look better, go better, handle better, stop better.... The list goes on and on. The only really really good thing about a Cosworth is the engine, the rest is just Sierra Ghia stuff.
they also depreciate better, can't obtain parts better, torque steer a lot better, crash better
I've seen a few of them proper bent up, they are a nice looking car though,Lots of things can be added to a saph to make it handle better etc
engine aside to compare the rest of the car to a Sierra Ghia is a bit of an oversight Paul Luciano
28-11-2012, 12:36 PM
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I assume we are talking about the mk1 Focus RS here?
they also depreciate better, can't obtain parts better, torque steer a lot better, crash better I've seen a few of them proper bent up, they are a nice looking car though,
Lots of things can be added to a saph to make it handle better etc engine aside to compare the rest of the car to a Sierra Ghia is a bit of an oversight Paul
Luciano
they also depreciate better, can't obtain parts better, torque steer a lot better, crash better
I've seen a few of them proper bent up, they are a nice looking car though,Lots of things can be added to a saph to make it handle better etc
engine aside to compare the rest of the car to a Sierra Ghia is a bit of an oversight Paul Luciano
The Focus is far better endowed in the suspension/handling department though, the thing is with Cosworth's is everyone wants more power and then just expect the chassis to cope with it, when standard it isn't a problem.
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28-11-2012, 01:03 PM
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The focus is just a ST170 with a bodykit.... you can look at it in so many ways.
A cosworth will always be that, a Cosworth. Respected and wanted in the right condition.
Comparing a 22 year old car to a car that is still under 10 years old is a bit daft. They both do something in very different ways.
And as for the Focus being quicker than a standard 2wd Sierra Cosworth, in a straight line at least I dont think so. Much lighter than the Focus with the same kind of power
A cosworth will always be that, a Cosworth. Respected and wanted in the right condition.
Comparing a 22 year old car to a car that is still under 10 years old is a bit daft. They both do something in very different ways.
And as for the Focus being quicker than a standard 2wd Sierra Cosworth, in a straight line at least I dont think so. Much lighter than the Focus with the same kind of power
28-11-2012, 03:16 PM
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Saphs are 20+ years old hence why they are much more sought after because they are a lot rarer. Wait another 10 years then I reckon you will find that a MK1 Focus RS becomes A LOT more sought after than what it is now. They aren't old enough yet to become properly collectable and sought after cars.