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Old 24-07-2012, 03:44 PM
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What make would you say is best for road use ?

The springs that are on my 3dr are too low and the ride very harsh

Im after something around standard ride height, not too low.

The car has Koni's all round.

Steve
Old 24-07-2012, 03:47 PM
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Ahmed?? -10mm drop
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Originally Posted by saphcosmike
Ahmed?? -10mm drop
A small drop like that sounds good.

The front on mine is fine but the back is way too low

Steve
Old 24-07-2012, 04:01 PM
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The ahmed springs or eibach are best with konis for a nice ride height and ride..

Your prob find if it isnt poly bushed it will need it as its not usually the springs that will make a car feel harsh its the components around them..

Check the roller bearings in the rear trailing arms and the top mount bushes on the front struts also the tca ends..these are the things that make them feel crash bangy especially when the car sits too low..


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Old 24-07-2012, 04:28 PM
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Gotta be bayjoo Steve
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As above seems AB springs and Koni's are the chosen road spec
Old 24-07-2012, 04:59 PM
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Defiantly ahmed, mr rainbird is your man.
Old 24-07-2012, 05:36 PM
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coil overs as your still in the spending mood
Old 24-07-2012, 05:47 PM
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I'm on AB's koni front... Bilstien rear.. Poly bushed and diff mount.. Drive superb..!!
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Ahmed springs, I certainly would not go for Eibach!

I, incidentally, have just gone from one to the other, the Ahmed ones are much better,being near enough standard ride height, and the ride is improved, although it's still pretty firm, but no worse than standard I shoulden't think!

The main things you can do at the rear to improve matters is by replacing the beam and diff mounts.

Martin
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Originally Posted by martysmartie
Ahmed springs, I certainly would not go for Eibach!

I, incidentally, have just gone from one to the other, the Ahmed ones are much better,being near enough standard ride height, and the ride is improved, although it's still pretty firm, but no worse than standard I shoulden't think!

The main things you can do at the rear to improve matters is by replacing the beam and diff mounts.

Martin

That is so funny because the ahmed springs are made by eibach i was told!!lol


cheers danny
Old 24-07-2012, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 750hp escos
That is so funny because the ahmed springs are made by eibach i was told!!lol


cheers danny
lol, and I was told they was made by Leda, in fact I am pretty sure I got that from Mike Rainbird as well?

Martin
Old 24-07-2012, 07:18 PM
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you not going to put all the bits off the 4i onto this then?
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
you not going to put all the bits off the 4i onto this then?
Well i could swap the diff mount over lol

The 4i is still in one piece

Steve
Old 24-07-2012, 07:32 PM
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Ahmeds.

Say no more
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Originally Posted by cossie4i+
Well i could swap the diff mount over lol

The 4i is still in one piece

Steve
brake it then lol I'd have the diff and beam in it by now! Plus build up your 200 block and put the 450 engine in the 3dr. Then sell every thing else to fund good brakes and painting the 3dr
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Bayjoo springs for sure,without a doubt,I purchased a set from Mr Rainbird last month and a set for my last 3dr,excellent springs and will work well with the Konis.The springs are made by Leda as stated by Rainbird.

Thanks.Lee.
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Just fitted Ahmed Bayjoo Leda springs a month ago from Mike Rainbird -10mm on my existing Koni's, a sapph mind but the ride is superb if that helps...
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Originally Posted by 1374lee
Bayjoo springs for sure,without a doubt,I purchased a set from Mr Rainbird last month and a set for my last 3dr,excellent springs and will work well with the Konis.The springs are made by Leda as stated by Rainbird.

Thanks.Lee.
Lee, have you got any pics of the ride height with the new springs fitted ?

Steve
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Originally Posted by cossie4i+
Lee, have you got any pics of the ride height with the new springs fitted ?

Steve
I haven't Steve,take a look at my old car with them fitted.They ride quite high at the rear and lower at the fronts,you can get the track version aswell,the only difference being 15% stiffer only on the rears(oh ey mrs),the front springs are exactly the same in track or fast road form.

CheeRS.Lee.
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Looks like a call to Mr Rainbird tomorrow then

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Originally Posted by cossie4i+
Looks like a call to Mr Rainbird tomorrow then

Steve
So are you reshelling a 3DR, what actually happened to the 4I's engine?

Martin
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Originally Posted by cossie4i+
Looks like a call to Mr Rainbird tomorrow then

Steve
Rainbird hasn't any fast road springs in stock,I had the last set but he does have the track springs.However he will be having another batch of fast road springs,not sure when,you will have to ask him.

Thanks.Lee.
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Originally Posted by martysmartie
So are you reshelling a 3DR, what actually happened to the 4I's engine?

Martin
I now have a real 3dr which is in need of some love.

The bottom end went on the 4is engine.

Steve
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Oh great stuff, white, black, or Moonstone?

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Originally Posted by martysmartie
Oh great stuff, white, black, or Moonstone?

Martin
Moonstone

Have a look in the resto section for pics

Steve
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Originally Posted by 750hp escos

Check the roller bearings in the rear trailing arms..


cheers danny
Roller bearings in the rear trailing arms, where are those?
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Originally Posted by MAD Ade
Roller bearings in the rear trailing arms, where are those?
At the two pivot points each trailing arm has, alot of people polybush these (Which makes for a terrible ride, so I hear) but the rose bearings are alot better but are also very expensive!

Martin
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I've got a set of early AB ones for sale in the for sale section, came off my sapph, there's a pic there aswell...


Oh and there bout £20 cheaper from groove direct ;o)

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Are saff and 3dr updated springs different in height or poundage from Ahmed in tracks spec
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Originally Posted by Rob Virgo
Are saff and 3dr updated springs different in height or poundage from Ahmed in tracks spec
Rears are 15% stiffer.

Martin
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Just ordered a set from Mike

I should have them friday

Steve
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There was a set of AB springs for sale last week for £50.
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Originally Posted by martysmartie
lol, and I was told they was made by Leda, in fact I am pretty sure I got that from Mike Rainbird as well?

Martin

Lol fuck knows then,il ask dave gazzard formely leda where their springs come from as im not sure they wind all of their own..


cheers danny
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