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Old 05-04-2010, 03:34 AM
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Default P100 rear ARB on a 2wd saff?

Just bought a 28mm rear anti roll bar from a P100

Does anyone know of any issues fitting it or if theres even any point in fitting it at all?

Many thanks
Old 05-04-2010, 11:22 AM
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think youll have trouble if youve got an uprated diff mount
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28mm????
If a P100 rear arb fits the normal saloon OK I think the guy above is right. A 22mm Escos one is a squeeze with an uprated mount so if it is 28mm at the rear it's going to need some 'mods' perhaps?

Also, 28mm rear will make the back enormously stiff I would fear? The front one is only that size and some people say that the 22mm rear arb makes the car too twitchy for them.
I cannot say whether it would suit your driving though.

I'd be worried about something bending on the back end with that sort of roll stiffness??
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WAY too stiff, if the car is not allowed to lean at all such as with this 28mm bar, it will understeerr all day long.
If you want the best fit a 22mm, yet again^^^ s/h news peddled down no doubt from experts that have never tried the 22mm rear arb, making the car twitchy, this could also be interpreted as makes the car 1000% more stable.
I've been running a 22mm adjustable one for over 6 months now, you don't know what you're missing, works even better with adjustable shocks as you can balance the car end to end then, the dire shit about sierra suspension is the rear beam, should have been struts from the start ideally.
If you fit the 28mm bar it will be massively too stiff, and a LOT slower on the corners due to lack of grip from the front end.
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I always thought a stiffer rear anti roll bar actually decreased grip at the rear not increased it, well it does on 4wd cars,
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Thanks for the replys people!...glad I paid next to fuk all for it lol...think i'll go on the hunt for a 22mm escos one
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Originally Posted by ShiftyOldScoob
Thanks for the replys people!...glad I paid next to fuk all for it lol...think i'll go on the hunt for a 22mm escos one
Just out of interest chap, is the 28mm one the same shape as the normal ones. I wondered if it might be totally different on a P100 ( don't they have leaf springs? ). Any chance of a pic?

I have worked my way from a 2wd Saph rear arb, to a 4x4 one and then the Escos one.
It is a lot stiffer ( 3.5 times I think ) but am just running with normal clamp bushes rather than Powerflex at the moment ( although I can option to those to introduce a bit more stiffness out of the package at any time ). I got it as Mike R ran one on his old Moonstone Blue Sapphire and that handled really well when I went in it at Donington. I also partly got it in anticipation of the 'tighter' VC diff which tends to introduce more initial corner entry 'push.
I've stuck with 2wd Sapph hubs at the moment as I'm running std ride at the front and also most of the roads round here are quite bumpy so I'd prefer the extra stability of the Sapphire hubs rather than trade-off for the enhanced turn-in ( but increased nervousness ) of the earlier 3-door type.
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Originally Posted by ShiftyOldScoob
Thanks for the replys people!...glad I paid next to fuk all for it lol...think i'll go on the hunt for a 22mm escos one
Just a thought, don't pass up the chance of a Scorpio Cosworth rear arb if you find one - will do almost the same job as it's practically as thick
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The scorp cossie one does fit but ONLY afaik from a saloon, sure the estate is different shape, scorp cossie is 21mm, but a lot cheaper, got one sat in me garage.
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Originally Posted by tabetha
The scorp cossie one does fit but ONLY afaik from a saloon, sure the estate is different shape, scorp cossie is 21mm, but a lot cheaper, got one sat in me garage.
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Didnt know about the scorpio cossie one...you after selling that one tabs?
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Originally Posted by ShiftyOldScoob
Didnt know about the scorpio cossie one...you after selling that one tabs?
Have you seen the P100 rear ARB in the flesh out of interest? Is it the same shape as a normal Sappire rear ARB?
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Originally Posted by ShiftyOldScoob
Thanks for the replys people!...glad I paid next to fuk all for it lol...think i'll go on the hunt for a 22mm escos one


Any chance of a pic of the p100 one Shifty?
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Originally Posted by Mike1
Any chance of a pic of the p100 one Shifty?
Alrite buddy, i'll try get a pic up thisafternoon...hada look at it and it's the same shape as the saff item, just really beefy!
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Originally Posted by ShiftyOldScoob
Alrite buddy, i'll try get a pic up thisafternoon...hada look at it and it's the same shape as the saff item, just really beefy!
Cheers Shifty - interesting info
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Originally Posted by ShiftyOldScoob
Didnt know about the scorpio cossie one...you after selling that one tabs?
Hadn't thought about selling it, but as I won't be using it might as well, £30 ok ?
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