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Old 05-08-2008, 07:56 PM
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are all 205 pinto blocks the same????

are the 2wd cosworth blocks the same as a normall 205 pinto block as found in the rs2000 except the internalls.

in other words, could i use one of those pinto blocks and my internalls.

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i beleive it is the same yes,but i think the best 205's were used on the cossies?
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cheers mate,

anyone got any idea what these numbers mean?

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aint got a clue fella sorry maybe build codes etc?
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How much is a 205 pinto bottom end worth there is one where i work doing nothing.
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normally about 50/60 quid mate, depends whats with it
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just rust, he wants rid if any one want to make he a offer. cheap cheap.
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oh that'll be about 100quid then, rust's fetchin a fair bit these days lol.

can you get me the codes of it when your next in work please, if there the right ones i'll have it off ya.
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ill take a pic tomorrow, Prob get weighed in soon tbh if no one wants it
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ok mate sound. just pm it me
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think its "ru5ty 205"
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exactly what im after

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205 blocks are all the same, the only special they made was for the rs500 205 block which the only noticable difference outside is the smaller core plug holes, but i belive the liners etc are thicker internally.... the 200 block as we all know are the ones to get but finding a good one for reasonable money will be a mission! many a person i know have run over 400bhp with a complete std 205 bottom end.......
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Originally Posted by saph cos rob
205 blocks are all the same, the only special they made was for the rs500 205 block
i thought all rs500's had 200 blocks?
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Originally Posted by SWIFTY
are all 205 pinto blocks the same????

are the 2wd cosworth blocks the same as a normall 205 pinto block as found in the rs2000 except the internalls.

in other words, could i use one of those pinto blocks and my internalls.

thanks
RS2000 never used a 205 block it used the early cortina 2.0 block, sorry to sound pedantic
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im almost 100% sure in saying the was a special 205 block made for the rs500??????? but i very much doubt your ever see 1 forsale!!!!!!! lmao
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Originally Posted by saph cos rob
im almost 100% sure in saying the was a special 205 block made for the rs500??????? but i very much doubt your ever see 1 forsale!!!!!!! lmao
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Yep, correct about the rs500 205 block. I was lucky enough to buy one and they don't come cheap! My car previously ran around 350bhp on a standard 205 block.
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So If I Buy A Standerd 205 Pinto Block Out Of Any Thing An Use My Internalls It Should Work And Be The Same Strenth



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Originally Posted by SWIFTY
cheers mate,

anyone got any idea what these numbers mean?

The 85HM 6015 BA is the original Ford part number, i.e the number on the engineering drawing not the Fins number used at the dealership / spares department.

Not sure what the other numbers are though.
Old 07-08-2008, 04:37 PM
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thanks mate
thats the same number as on mine so does that mean there the same block???
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It means the blocks are the same design but I'm sure the Cosworth blocks where hand picked based on the bore tolerance after machining.

From memory I think if you look by the distributor there are four numbers stamped in the block. These dictate the class of the bore after it was machined, think there were 4 classes in total. I'm sure the blocks for Cosworth engines only used class 1 or 2 bores but I maybe wrong.

If your having the block re-bored anyway then it shouldn't be a problem.
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