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cossie0_4 26-05-2008 10:33 PM

oil pressure
 
my mates 2wd cossie has just started to lose oil pressure on tickover its down to about 30 psi but when he gives it some it down to 20 this is at tickover but as soon as you drive it its about 55 all the time even after giving it some any ideas the engine had a freshen up about 4000 miles ago new rings and shells do you think pump is on its way out its a grahame goode uprated item if that helps also only 4000 miles ago. recent oil change no bits of metal inside any help cheers

cossie0_4 27-05-2008 09:10 AM

car used to be 35psi when warm all the time cheers

rapidcossie 27-05-2008 11:46 AM

the pressure at idle aint that important as long as you do have some.

55 psi on normal driving sounds healthy to me

Char1ie 27-05-2008 01:22 PM

I race my Sapph with similar pressure. It sits at 20 on idle, rises to 55-60 as I rev it and holds 55-60 during use. On idle it steadily falls back to 20ish. It was at Grove Garage recently and they didn't comment. As far as I'm concerned that's normal.

Charlie

cossie0_4 27-05-2008 03:31 PM

but why wood it start and loose pressure is it because engine has started to bed in do you think it could be pump or am i woried about nothing cheers

AndyPen 27-05-2008 05:13 PM

Worried about nothing imo mate - mines the same and Harvey built it ;-)

LHD220Turbo 27-05-2008 09:01 PM

mine idles at 2 bar aprrox 29 psi

Jimboxr4x4 27-05-2008 09:39 PM

Mine can idle as low as that when its hot.

lamb chops 27-05-2008 09:57 PM

mines down to 20 psi when hot, used to be higher.. just changing my mobile one for some of the silkolene pro s stuff to try and help.

col cos1 27-05-2008 10:07 PM

sounds about right,as above give it an oil change+as much as ggr stuff is god as i have alot of it their pumps are dodgy

they dont sell a complete pump its just the internal part you have to have your old cover machined to fit

PGT 27-05-2008 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by lamb chops (Post 3319119)
mines down to 20 psi when hot, used to be higher.. just changing my mobile one for some of the silkolene pro s stuff to try and help.

when i put silkolene in mine the pressure dropped at idle. when the motor was stripped, crank, shells and pump were perfect

lamb chops 28-05-2008 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by PGT (Post 3319173)
when i put silkolene in mine the pressure dropped at idle. when the motor was stripped, crank, shells and pump were perfect

Thats just what i want to hear :cry::cry:

Ryan 28-05-2008 10:22 AM

as above when i switched to pro s idle pressure was lower when cold to mobile 1, but was consistantly better when warm.

Also made the tappets alot noiser's when cold, but silent when warmed up a bit and pumped around

Sticky. 28-05-2008 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by Ryan (Post 3319766)
as above when i switched to pro s idle pressure was lower when cold to mobile 1, but was consistantly better when warm.

Also made the tappets alot noiser's when cold, but silent when warmed up a bit and pumped around

Was your tappets quiet when cold before you changed oil mate?

Mine are quiet from cold then chatter away when hot on the Mobil 1. Was gonna change them along with the cam bearing etc to get the head quiet again.

lamb chops 28-05-2008 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by Ryan (Post 3319766)
as above when i switched to pro s idle pressure was lower when cold to mobile 1, but was consistantly better when warm.

Also made the tappets alot noiser's when cold, but silent when warmed up a bit and pumped around

yeah my oil pressure is 50 PSI on tickover when cold on Mobile 1, drops to just below 20 when warm though, need a better warm idle pressure so it may help then..

Ryan 28-05-2008 12:38 PM

mine was never that low on idle, unless i had given it a serious serious thrash, and then would be around 25.

Also my cold pressure was more like 60-65

paul, yeah the tappets were silent before, might jsut be a shitty tappet but there were brand new.

bigchez 08-07-2008 09:42 PM

Sorry to drag this up.

Mines usually 60 ish at cold start and 50ish when warm and driving gently, rising to 55-60 when revving, and 35 on idle.

Tonight gave it a bit of beans and it dropped to 30 when idling but then climbed back to 35 as usual.

I take it this is normal, it was just a bit warm??

LHD220Turbo 09-07-2008 10:37 AM

yeah that's fine; idle PSI isnt as important as the PSI when reved - alot of gauges arent accurate tho and when people install gauges they worry they have low oil pressure

Ridgey 09-07-2008 10:47 AM

Has to be taken in context as well.
Idle psi with what oil spec:
Cold idle with 5, 10 or 15 ?????????
Hot idle with 40, 50, 60 ???????

Lower viscosity = Lower pressure

scoooby slayer 09-07-2008 10:53 AM

ford spec with 10w 50 is 1.8 bar at idle at 80c oil temp. you could try a 10w 60 that should give better hot pressure. i dont thnik youve got anything to worry about though at 20 psi.

lamb chops 09-07-2008 12:46 PM

my dropping oil pressure turned out to be a screwed engine!! but i was also loseing pressue when reving not just on idle. looked at the back of my rocker and the powdercoat has been burning off and blistering due to head heat so not much cooling going on!!

cossiegreg1 09-07-2008 05:36 PM

i got 80psi on cold idle, then normally 30-40psi when warm. if its been thrashed 20-25psi on idle. as soon as i drive 80psi.
im using mobile 1 15/50

Mike1 09-07-2008 06:26 PM

That's hot idle for mine - it was a psi less at 108
Normally about 32/33 at 80

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...y/P1010132.jpg

bigchez 09-07-2008 07:17 PM

Cheers guys, think it was just paranoia kicking in and I don't have that much to worry about!!


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