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s1 dean 24-10-2007 07:32 PM

stg 3 2wd saff what headgasket and headbolts?
 
as above really, got the head off my saff due to a chunk missing off of a exhaust valve :cry: and ive been thinking i might aswell stg 3 it whilst every thing is off as its currently stg 1 and i'm getting bored with the power.

will a group A headgasket be ok for stg3?
headbolts or stud + nut kit?

i remember a post a little while ago about studding a block but can't seem to find it :(

any help much appreciated :top:

mechanic28 24-10-2007 09:43 PM

group A and standard head bolts more then man enough for stage 3 fella :top:

borderfox 24-10-2007 09:56 PM

Stud en nut buck far better than bolts...........worth the few reds if ever.,. :cool:

Smoker 25-10-2007 01:21 PM

gasket
 
i would recommend a mls gasket for peace of mind,but a grp a would be fine.

silky16v 25-10-2007 02:54 PM

used a Small Turbo Escos Head Gasket, better and cheaper than Group A

Make sure the top of the block is clean and free from all old gasket and surface marks, make sure the head is true and flat clean both surfaces with a good cleaner (panel wipe or brake cleaner, don't forget to clean the head bolt thread out, throughtly) and fit the gasket dry without any sealant use standard head bolts torqued up correctly this is perfectly fine for stage 3 setup

Twellsie 25-10-2007 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by silky16v
used a Small Turbo Escos Head Gasket, better and cheaper than Group A

Make sure the top of the block is clean and free from all old gasket and surface marks, make sure the head is true and flat clean both surfaces with a good cleaner (panel wipe or brake cleaner, don't forget to clean the head bolt thread out, throughtly) and fit the gasket dry without any sealant use standard head bolts torqued up correctly this is perfectly fine for stage 3 setup

Silky is bang on, Grp A would also be fine (YBO611)

reisskahn 26-10-2007 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by silky16v
used a Small Turbo Escos Head Gasket, better and cheaper than Group A

Silky never heard of this before :roll:

Is the small turbo headgasket better than the standard large turbo cossy ones and the Group A headgasket?

If so how, in stucture and what could it handle up to all day long? Oh and what are they priced at approx?

cheers

JTECH James 26-10-2007 01:25 PM

grp a gasket and std bolts will be fine for this application.

s1 dean 28-10-2007 04:48 PM

thanks for the replys people :top:

got a grp A head set from woodford garage motorsport the other day first time ive used them and was very impressed with the service (good price reductions over the phone if you have a bigish list like i did :cry: ) and how quick it was delivered will be definatly using them again :D

silky16v 29-10-2007 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by reisskahn

Originally Posted by silky16v
used a Small Turbo Escos Head Gasket, better and cheaper than Group A

Silky never heard of this before :roll:

Is the small turbo headgasket better than the standard large turbo cossy ones and the Group A headgasket?

If so how, in stucture and what could it handle up to all day long? Oh and what are they priced at approx?

cheers

i don't know the exact finer details ask Mike Rainbird (R&B Motorsport)

Yura 31-10-2007 02:28 PM

standart Head Gasket is bad for st3?

dakar 31-10-2007 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by silky16v

Originally Posted by reisskahn

Originally Posted by silky16v
used a Small Turbo Escos Head Gasket, better and cheaper than Group A

Silky never heard of this before :roll:

Is the small turbo headgasket better than the standard large turbo cossy ones and the Group A headgasket?

If so how, in stucture and what could it handle up to all day long? Oh and what are they priced at approx?

cheers

i don't know the exact finer details ask Mike Rainbird (R&B Motorsport)

Just bought one of these today from Matt Lewis and he says they are better than a group A one and are good for over 400 brake.And hes got some for only 30 bucks delivered :top:

reisskahn 31-10-2007 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by dakar

Originally Posted by silky16v

Originally Posted by reisskahn

Originally Posted by silky16v
used a Small Turbo Escos Head Gasket, better and cheaper than Group A

Silky never heard of this before :roll:

Is the small turbo headgasket better than the standard large turbo cossy ones and the Group A headgasket?

If so how, in stucture and what could it handle up to all day long? Oh and what are they priced at approx?

cheers

i don't know the exact finer details ask Mike Rainbird (R&B Motorsport)

Just bought one of these today from Matt Lewis and he says they are better than a group A one and are good for over 400 brake.And hes got some for only 30 bucks delivered :top:

Well done buddy Matts a top MAN :top:

Yura 02-11-2007 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by dakar

Originally Posted by silky16v

Originally Posted by reisskahn

Originally Posted by silky16v
used a Small Turbo Escos Head Gasket, better and cheaper than Group A

Silky never heard of this before :roll:

Is the small turbo headgasket better than the standard large turbo cossy ones and the Group A headgasket?

If so how, in stucture and what could it handle up to all day long? Oh and what are they priced at approx?

cheers

i don't know the exact finer details ask Mike Rainbird (R&B Motorsport)

Just bought one of these today from Matt Lewis and he says they are better than a group A one and are good for over 400 brake.And hes got some for only 30 bucks delivered :top:

Do you have any(finis...) number of small turbo escos head gasket?

s1robinb 02-11-2007 08:39 AM

Ok peeps what about this? Who thinks what is better ? ;)

https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=298520

reisskahn 02-11-2007 12:46 PM

s1robinb am no expert but from the posts, comments and discussions ive gatherd on PF and in general that a Group A headgasket will be more than upto to the job for a stg3.

Some peeps reckon its even good for upto 400bhp. Alternatively as ive just learnt the standard small turbo escort cosworth headgasket is just as good. Infact better than a group A headgasket and much cheaper :top:

Ive been told don't bother with a stud & nut kit (if u mean ARP) for the headbolts. The std headbolts are good enough for this kind of power.

And regarding the Cometic one i've heard that the face of the Block and Head have to true & straight as possible for a good seal. If not your asking for it.

From what ive summed up if it was me ill go for the std small cossy headgasket if not then a Group A one with std headbolts.

Like i said i aint no expert pls seek further advise before make a decision. Ive just posted what i've been learning from here.

Anyone if am wrong pls correct me

Hope that helps

Good Luck


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