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Old 03-02-2015, 02:25 PM
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Default Hydraulic lifters and shims - help with shims!

i'm replacing a few lifters in my mk5 fiesta 1.25 zetec. there's only one type of lifter to replace....but there are loads of different shims i could order depending on size...
i checked all the clearances before i took everything apart and they were within the fords cold tolerances. i didn't check them warm, but i used an automotive stethoscope to find which area the tapping was coming from. it was terrible - i had to stop driving it as it was too bad.

do i need to replace the shims too? if i need to order shims too, how do i work out what sizes to order?

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You'll have to start from scratch with the shims. If you were just setting the gaps, you would measure the gap, take the shim out, read off the thickness and then get the appropriate thickness of new shim. If the gap was too big, you'd fit a thicker shim, it it was too small, you'd fit a thinner shim. Best be would probably be to fit the new lifter with your thinnest existing shim and then measure the gap. You could then calculate the thickness required to go with the new lifter.
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You'll have to start from scratch with the shims. If you were just setting the gaps, you would measure the gap, take the shim out, read off the thickness and then get the appropriate thickness of new shim. If the gap was too big, you'd fit a thicker shim, it it was too small, you'd fit a thinner shim. Best be would probably be to fit the new lifter with your thinnest existing shim and then measure the gap. You could then calculate the thickness required to go with the new lifter.
so all lifters are slightly different sizes? what if i put the old shims back it then check the gap and it's fine?
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The lifters, cam lobes and valve stems all wear over time, that's why they need adjusting. You could find that some or all of them are OK or at the very least you may be able to re-use some in other positions. You'll just have to fit them and check. Hydraulic lifters don't normally have shims though as they self adjust. Only the solid lifters need shims.
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