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Karl @ FPT 25-06-2015 11:06 AM

One of the many reasons I don't like using old Ford EFI....
 
.... Fucked about with looms! :cry:

This was removed from a Fiesta and fitted as the customer found it to his Escort believing it to all be as it should.

The Coil pack suppressor is plugged into the Amal valve wiring/connector :wall:
Two giveaways here... Firstly the suppressor connector only has one wire to it not two and secondly one of the pins it rotated 90deg making it hard to actually push the wrong plug on oh and of course it should be over the other side of the engine bay teed off of the coil pack live too.
The loom was cut and joined (for no obvious reason) 3" from the Amal plug and the coil pack wiring has also been cut and joined with no sign of the suppressor wiring anywhere.

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If you are fitting old Ford EFI management be it OFAB, OFAC or Cossie please be sure it's all correct or you will be always chasing problems.

Rob_DOHC 26-06-2015 03:17 PM

Thats pretty lol, how much grief did that give you? BTW, if you have the amal valve connector you don't need to add any other wires to the loom if you are installing a boost solenoid on OFAM, forgot to tell you that the other day but you have probably worked it out.

Rob,

frsjon 26-06-2015 04:38 PM

:cry: :cry: love it ...whats going on with what i think is a vac pipe to the right if the picture? looks a bit over engineered lol

Karl @ FPT 26-06-2015 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC (Post 6601975)
Thats pretty lol, how much grief did that give you? BTW, if you have the amal valve connector you don't need to add any other wires to the loom if you are installing a boost solenoid on OFAM, forgot to tell you that the other day but you have probably worked it out.

Rob,

Enough! :wall:
Yeah I did realise when reading the docs, but with the wiring being where it is (loom has been stripped and reassembled badly at some point) it was actually quicker to just run fresh, plus I didn't know until I realised what was going on here! :cry: lol

Originally Posted by frsjon (Post 6601999)
:cry: :cry: love it ...whats going on with what i think is a vac pipe to the right if the picture? looks a bit over engineered lol

Over engineered boost gauge take off I think, I've not actually looked at it yet as getting it running right is first on the list.

tkracing 27-06-2015 08:18 AM

feel for u mate, fking hate dozy gits working on electrics... once stripped out more than one handful of excess wiring on an mx5 i used to own... live wires dangling everywhere, tucked into holes.etc.
good find mate.. well done.

Nosmonkey 27-06-2015 09:11 AM

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Unnecessarily long wiring is one of my pet hates. Was working on my mk1 golf and it had that lovely 80s install fitted....
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Soon found the best place for it though lol
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mentalasanything 29-06-2015 08:10 PM

I hate crimp through connectors and scotchlocks. Solder and heatshrink all the way!

Lee :top:

Chas 29-06-2015 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by mentalasanything (Post 6602764)
I hate crimp through connectors and scotchlocks. Solder and heatshrink all the way!

Lee :top:

Damn right. I hate crimp connectors for the hassle they seem to cause, although for a short term fix they are OK (I.e a roadside repair).

Karl @ FPT 10-07-2015 07:02 AM

Another one I had yesterday....
Engine RPM was randomly unstable, one minute it was fine the next it was all over the place in a rhythmic fashion! :cry:
This ICV wiring had been cut and then twisted and taped together badly (not even extended, just cut and rejoined in exactly the same place?!) and as the engine vibrated the connection was open...closed...open...closed so the idle valve was also open...closed...open..closed! :wall:

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Versus_Creations 10-07-2015 08:47 AM

well done you found a twisted wire. all hail. :cry:

Rob_DOHC 10-07-2015 09:00 AM

Whats your problem mate? seriously.

Every other tuner/user on here either stays in the back ground and holds their comments or logs on and makes helpful posts. They never make snide digs intended to harm some one else's business or bad mouth each other like kids.

Grow up as this kind of behaviour is simply below you. The unfortunate thing as I have already said is that you are clearly an clever guy with some interesting ideas and a lot of know how, in other circumstances you would have been an interesting fellow to chat with. But stuff like this just puts you in a bad light.

Versus_Creations 10-07-2015 09:14 AM

rob dont come over all high and mighty. it suits you and karlos when you like, but when you get it back you cry.

Karl @ FPT 10-07-2015 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Versus_Creations (Post 6605376)
well done you found a twisted wire. all hail. :cry:

It was just another example of poor wiring that causes problems for people, no praise necessary :thumbup:

Originally Posted by Versus_Creations (Post 6605385)
rob dont come over all high and mighty. it suits you and karlos when you like, but when you get it back you cry.

Rob is correct though, all you seem to do recently is put people down, both customers and other people in the trade.... you really don't come across well at all, need I remind you of the Cossie management discussion with James @ MSD? :roll:

Versus_Creations 10-07-2015 10:24 AM

'cos james couldnt suss it out and they cant sell secondhand ecus. Yep makes total sense ;)
enough anyway mods and us all getting bored now.

STeve 10-07-2015 10:29 AM

again ffs aint you lot got any work to do :poke:

Karl @ FPT 10-07-2015 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by Versus_Creations (Post 6605410)
'cos james couldnt suss it out and they cant sell secondhand ecus. Yep makes total sense ;)
enough anyway mods and us all getting bored now.


No mate, I was actually referring to the part where you insulted the customer and accused him of lying, then made statements about James and Stu... only for James to come along and put you in your place, I can quote if you don't remember? ;)

But yes ok enough, it doesn't really help anyone.

Karl @ FPT 10-07-2015 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by 1-PD (Post 6605412)
again ffs aint you lot got any work to do :poke:

lol Sorry mate, at least this is my thread!

Rob_DOHC 10-07-2015 10:32 AM

lol - Actually this is a decent distraction from a job which I've managed to put off for a few days now!

I think we can leave the subject alone now, yes Jano?

STeve 10-07-2015 10:34 AM

you lot made me smile today as it was like telling my sons off and yes karlos it is :king:

Karl @ FPT 10-07-2015 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC (Post 6605416)
lol - Actually this is a decent distraction from a job which I've managed to put off for a few days now!

I think we can leave the subject alone now, yes Jano?

Is it my 5 Cyl sequential ECU? :poke:

Originally Posted by 1-PD (Post 6605417)
you lot made me smile today as it was like telling my sons off

:oops: :goout: lol

Versus_Creations 10-07-2015 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Karl @ FPT (Post 6605414)
lol Sorry mate, at least this is my thread!

:cry: sorry to the op. :cry:

Rob_DOHC 10-07-2015 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Karl @ FPT (Post 6605418)
Is it my 5 Cyl sequential ECU? :poke:


:oops: :goout: lol

haha, no thats my distraction from my distraction. All done, just got to sort out a case for it now. :king:

Rob_DOHC 10-07-2015 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by 1-PD (Post 6605417)
you lot made me smile today as it was like telling my sons off and yes karlos it is :king:

Lol, I did feel light a naughty school boy for a moment there.

Karl @ FPT 10-07-2015 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by Versus_Creations (Post 6605420)
:cry: sorry to the op. :cry:

lol Excellent! :grin:

Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC (Post 6605423)
haha, no thats my distraction from my distraction. All done, just got to sort out a case for it now. :king:

Ah superb, cheers Rob! :king:

slimwynn 11-07-2015 11:09 PM

wile we are on the subject of efi I'm wanting to fit ofam is there anything i should check before fitting e.g wiring sensors?

Karl @ FPT 12-07-2015 09:48 AM

Is your car already on EFI and running ok?

slimwynn 12-07-2015 08:08 PM

yes its efi and running fine.

Karl @ FPT 13-07-2015 09:15 AM

Then you will probably have no or little problems and can just plug and play! :)
All the sensors can be tested of course but if the car is running fine, cold and hot start are good, throttle response is good, stable idle, smooth boost etc. I would just get the ECU and drop the car to your chosen tuner for mapping, they will soon see if there are any issues once the ECU is installed anyway.


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