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rsmog33 17-10-2014 06:39 PM

S2 fuelling issue
 
Hi guys. My s2 still wouldn't start due to fuelling issues. Had to hold metering flap down to get it going.

Then I crimped the hose from the oil separator to metering unit while my mate cranked it over and it fired up first time.

So I blocked this off and now vent to atmosphere through a mini k&n filter.

Does this mean I have basically overcome an air leak engine side so now the flap has enough vacuum to pull down and send fuel through???

Starts first time now and runs sweet!!!!

rsmog33 18-10-2014 06:14 PM

Anyone?? Would be great for opinions..

Karlos G 19-10-2014 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by rsmog33 (Post 6529184)
Hi guys. My s2 still wouldn't start due to fuelling issues. Had to hold metering flap down to get it going.

Then I crimped the hose from the oil separator to metering unit while my mate cranked it over and it fired up first time.

So I blocked this off and now vent to atmosphere through a mini k&n filter.

Does this mean I have basically overcome an air leak engine side so now the flap has enough vacuum to pull down and send fuel through???

Starts first time now and runs sweet!!!!

Yes exactly that.

rsmog33 19-10-2014 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Karlos G (Post 6529653)
Yes exactly that.

Great thanks, thought as much. However when I said it runs sweet that is a slight porky:|

It is now slightly overfuelling but I think that is to be expected when changing the breather set up. I am using auto specialists oil separator.

Is it safe to say that with a decent set up now on the fuelling things should be ok?? Engine seems much happier without the vapours going through the metering unit as it is quite heavily modified so does breathe a bit harder.

Piston Broke 19-10-2014 03:23 PM

Im a bit lost, you on a baileys system i guess on the oil separator ? so the bottom pipe to the metering head, you capped of the metering unit and put a K&N on the bottom of the separator ?

Karlos G 19-10-2014 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by rsmog33 (Post 6529692)
Great thanks, thought as much. However when I said it runs sweet that is a slight porky:|

It is now slightly overfuelling but I think that is to be expected when changing the breather set up. I am using auto specialists oil separator.

Is it safe to say that with a decent set up now on the fuelling things should be ok?? Engine seems much happier without the vapours going through the metering unit as it is quite heavily modified so does breathe a bit harder.

Often the case if there was previously a vacuum leak, I would recommend a setup yes mate.

rsmog33 20-10-2014 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by Karlos G (Post 6529742)
Often the case if there was previously a vacuum leak, I would recommend a setup yes mate.

Thanks Karlos. I noticed from reading other threads that you seem to favour blocking off the metering unit form the breather also.

What is your set up with the breather pipe now from the oil separator?? Do you have a catch tank ( or similar ) or do you vent straight to atmosphere??

I have merely attached a small breather filter to the end of quite a long samco oil resistant hose and let it vent down near the front anti roll bar.

Seems to be different views on catch tanks etc..and also fumes generated. Mine seems ok at the moment. Cheers

Karlos G 21-10-2014 09:35 PM

Yes because it eliminates fuelling issues if you have a leak, I vent to atmosphere, no engine on the planet prefers dirty oily air to fresh! lol

rsmog33 21-10-2014 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by Karlos G (Post 6530368)
Yes because it eliminates fuelling issues if you have a leak, I vent to atmosphere, no engine on the planet prefers dirty oily air to fresh! lol

I couldn't agree more. Do you use a catch tank or vent through a mini breather filter to atmosphere???

Piston Broke 21-10-2014 10:25 PM

But the part i dont follow is, wont it kill the vacume. ie like when you remove the oil cap it kills the engine ? so by putting a K&N on the baileys tank or whatever make isnt it just like doing that ?? thanks, just intrested

Karlos G 23-10-2014 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by Karlos G (Post 6530368)
Yes because it eliminates fuelling issues if you have a leak, I vent to atmosphere, no engine on the planet prefers dirty oily air to fresh! lol


Originally Posted by rsmog33 (Post 6530373)
I couldn't agree more. Do you use a catch tank or vent through a mini breather filter to atmosphere???


Originally Posted by Piston Broke (Post 6530385)
But the part i dont follow is, wont it kill the vacume. ie like when you remove the oil cap it kills the engine ? so by putting a K&N on the baileys tank or whatever make isnt it just like doing that ?? thanks, just intrested

No, because you have blocked the metering unit return off.

Piston Broke 23-10-2014 09:24 PM

this the tank with the 2 x rocker vents at the top and one to the metering unit at the bottom ? the bottom is the one you would K&N then ?


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