what next step engine modif
hy her is my spec
still MFI: piper cam 285 t group a coil mongoose exhaust big airtec intercooler stage 2 turbo (set to 17 psi) turbosystem chip (max 18psi) ingnition advance 16 degree have 190-200 hp normaly next step im thinking about stage 3 burton big valve head ?? good idea? a uprated clutch ?? wich one ?AP organic?? ( is there not one clutch wihtout changing pedal box? ) andim looking about a stage 1 cts gearbox or (ib5 with rst lsd ) good idea? thanks |
Head work would probably be the next step.
What Pistons and rods do you have as they will need upgrading if your planning on going for big power! |
i thought the degree would be lower if the engine is running more more power etc, not 16 etc, my car is bog standard and it was setup with 13 degree.
i might be totally wrong just threads I've read and picked up on, don't shout at me though lol |
Call cylinder head developments
He will post and polish head etc don't go for bigger valves not needed. That work u be lucking under £200 |
A stage 3 T3 would be your next upgrade for more BHP if your MFI can cope, around 240bhp is the limit of the rods though so be careful, even less if you bounce around the limiter a lot, many have broken them sub 200bhp!
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ok thanks well stil have tandad piston and standard rods
well ok next step cylinder head stage 3 from burton.. what about the clutch ap organic? is there not an other one without changing the pedal box |
You haven't set up your ignition timing with detonation detection yet did you? I would go for max advance of ignition. You need detonation detection and on rollers would be the easiest. If you never done it you need help -> Tuner
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Originally Posted by luxembourgrst
(Post 6524601)
ok thanks well stil have tandad piston and standard rods well ok next step cylinder head stage 3 from burton.. what about the clutch ap organic? is there not an other one without changing the pedal box
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As said, a stage 3 head is pointless at your power.
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
(Post 6524902)
As said, a stage 3 head is pointless at your power.
a stage 3 head big valve is it to mutch for my setup will I not win some bhp wih it? |
Originally Posted by luxembourgrst
(Post 6524917)
sorry my English but pointless what this mean?
a stage 3 head big valve is it to mutch for my setup will I not win some bhp wih it? You only need ported and polished head for good gains. Then add a hybrid T3 Turbo (Stage 3) 200bhp+ easily Then Mfi and internals are holding you back |
I would convert to EFI and get some better management make it much easier to tune as well. Stage 3 T3 also a good start
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pff my stage 2 t3 is brand new hmmmmm
well what about the clutch? |
but why a satge 3 turbo? because my stage 2 can go up to 20psi
but I only run it a t 17-18 psi because my turbosstem chip limit to 18psi a stage 3 can go up to 25 psi (like burton says) thanks guys |
Originally Posted by luxembourgrst
(Post 6524917)
sorry my English but pointless what this mean?
a stage 3 head big valve is it to mutch for my setup will I not win some bhp wih it? No you will not gain some bhp.
Originally Posted by luxembourgrst
(Post 6525363)
pff my stage 2 t3 is brand new hmmmmm
well what about the clutch?
Originally Posted by luxembourgrst
(Post 6525400)
but why a satge 3 turbo? because my stage 2 can go up to 20psi
but I only run it a t 17-18 psi because my turbosstem chip limit to 18psi a stage 3 can go up to 25 psi (like burton says) thanks guys |
well ok
if I good understand next step will only be a stage 3 turbo to win some bhp thanks |
Originally Posted by Red_bull
(Post 6524853)
You haven't set up your ignition timing with detonation detection yet did you? I would go for max advance of ignition. You need detonation detection and on rollers would be the easiest. If you never done it you need help -> Tuner
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efi conversion,
you might just be able to change the exhaust housing on the turbo to a .48 |
Originally Posted by studabear
(Post 6525738)
efi conversion,
you might just be able to change the exhaust housing on the turbo to a .48 |
Yes as to my knowledge the stage 2 has a .36 exhaust housing.
My stage 2 did on my cvh, I swapped to a .48 for my zetec turbo. |
it s mean my stage 2 turbo with a 48 exhaust housing is like a stage 3
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Stock .36/45 will do 190bhp, stage 2 .36/50 will do 230bhp, stage 3 .48/55 will do 300bhp
maybe not a good idea with the 48 housing because the 50 will be 48/50 ??? is it good |
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