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Old 08-01-2013, 07:45 PM
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Right been thinking about it my engine on my car has had a fair tune up from bored out low comp bottom end to a stage 3 head ( what ever that means ) with hybrid turbo and a few other bits and bobs ...

Now my car won't spark and I think it's the loom as its been stood for quite some years now so instead of putting a different rs turbo loom in it or getting a new 1 made up for it . It am thinking of running cosworth management .

So what I am wanting to no is do I keep my loom and cut into it to fit the cossie management or do it fit a cossie loom to my car .. And will it improve it for mapping and stuff its running mfi and to be honest the motor has had a load of money spent on it .

Any advice / half would be great
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The cossie loom just adds to your loom, once everything is plugged in then there are just a few wires to connect, earths, fuel pump, ignition live, perm live and tacho.

On series 1's I have seen using a efi ford inlet and cossie throttle body they have required bonnet raisers.
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Originally Posted by dean richardson
Right been thinking about it my engine on my car has had a fair tune up from bored out low comp bottom end to a stage 3 head ( what ever that means ) with hybrid turbo and a few other bits and bobs ...

Now my car won't spark and I think it's the loom as its been stood for quite some years now so instead of putting a different rs turbo loom in it or getting a new 1 made up for it . It am thinking of running cosworth management .

So what I am wanting to no is do I keep my loom and cut into it to fit the cossie management or do it fit a cossie loom to my car .. And will it improve it for mapping and stuff its running mfi and to be honest the motor has had a load of money spent on it .

Any advice / half would be great
You sure it's not a simple fix like a coil or dizzy before all this ballache? (Ballache in my experience anyway)
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Originally Posted by the_frozen_one
You sure it's not a simple fix like a coil or dizzy before all this ballache? (Ballache in my experience anyway)
Changed coil changed dizzy changed ht leads changed plugs still no good
So was looking into things and seen people running cossie management sounds like a good idea . Might be daft to think it tho
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Originally Posted by studabear
The cossie loom just adds to your loom, once everything is plugged in then there are just a few wires to connect, earths, fuel pump, ignition live, perm live and tacho.

On series 1's I have seen using a efi ford inlet and cossie throttle body they have required bonnet raisers.
So I carnt run it on mfi then no ? Am sure my mate had it on his series 1 running mfi could be wrong tho

I no it defiantly didn't have bonnet raisers
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Originally Posted by dean richardson
So I carnt run it on mfi then no ? Am sure my mate had it on his series 1 running mfi could be wrong tho

I no it defiantly didn't have bonnet raisers
Your best bet is to spend a few quid on an auto sparks who will fix yours in no time
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Originally Posted by dean richardson
So I carnt run it on mfi then no ? Am sure my mate had it on his series 1 running mfi could be wrong tho

I no it defiantly didn't have bonnet raisers
It was possibly a mfi inlet modified to run the efi fuel injectors and fuel rail etc.

Cossie management is efi
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Your best bet is to spend a few quid on an auto sparks who will fix yours in no time
I have another bloke coming round to have a look at it I have already had 2 different auto electricians come round and look to see what the problem is and they both said said thing that it was ignition module so I have put a new 1 on and still no different
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Originally Posted by studabear
It was possibly a mfi inlet modified to run the efi fuel injectors and fuel rail etc.

Cossie management is efi
I don't no to be honest but I no it was and still is running cossie management and his car goes well for what's it had done to it
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Maybe the ignition ecu if pretty much every other component has been replaced? I take it there is power at all the right places, a sparky would of checked I assume?
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My old Rst was mfi running 5th injector on cossie managment fitted and set upby Ray Mason
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Originally Posted by the_frozen_one
Maybe the ignition ecu if pretty much every other component has been replaced? I take it there is power at all the right places, a sparky would of checked I assume?
Yeh there is power there when ignition is on but as soon as you crank it over it loses it all ?
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Originally Posted by doga-ot
My old Rst was mfi running 5th injector on cossie managment fitted and set upby Ray Mason
Was it a ball ache to do doga ? And did it makes much difference power and mapping wise ?
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Originally Posted by dean richardson
Yeh there is power there when ignition is on but as soon as you crank it over it loses it all ?
Well that,s not the ECU then if it loses all it's live supplies when you crank it!

The S1 harness is pretty simple so it can't be a difficult fix. Get another electrician lined up, buy the book in the link below and give it to the electrician. It has the RST Turbo wiring diagrams in it for the Series 1 and they are correct (they are actually Ford's own diagrams).

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-ESCOR...item19d525ae21
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Originally Posted by DazC
Well that,s not the ECU then if it loses all it's live supplies when you crank it!

The S1 harness is pretty simple so it can't be a difficult fix. Get another electrician lined up, buy the book in the link below and give it to the electrician. It has the RST Turbo wiring diagrams in it for the Series 1 and they are correct (they are actually Ford's own diagrams).

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-ESCOR...item19d525ae21
Got another electrician coming out to have a look at the weekend .. And cheers for the link I will have a look now cos I have all the diagrams already got them off a bloke who works for ford he got them when he bare shelled his rst thanks again buddy
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Or you can go over to fiesta turbo efi management also!
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Originally Posted by dean richardson
Was it a ball ache to do doga ? And did it makes much difference power and mapping wise ?
He did it all in a day was perfect after it was done, before it was done one day it would run great next day like piece of shit power was great only ever had it mapped the once sold after 8months due to getting a great deal on an astra gte c20let and £800 my way,then sold that and now back in a cossie
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Originally Posted by Gadget
Or you can go over to fiesta turbo efi management also!
What's best option gadget ? Twins messaged me on here yesterday telling me your the man to see and your only around the corner from me
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You have all the diagrams and the electrician still can't fix it?! WTF?!
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