jonny s2

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thinking of doing this to my cvh engine,is it really needed,also does anyone have any pics,

muz

I think the CVH sump is a pretty good design so you don't really need it doing. I think NMS just weld one plate in them?

RSTurboSI

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Good idea, mine suffers from oil Movment. (if thats what we're talking about)

Oil Going to one side of the sump. i know someone who desgins them for SaxoVTR's ect, if you want one doing i may beable to get him to design you one once mines fabricated

xr2wishy

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you mean like this:



have a word with fiecos dan on here or www.xrtwo.com
pics are of dans design

Micky

Not needed according to NMS,mines not and I've never had an issue with low oil pressure in the turns.Regards,Micky

botters

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i think daz c may disagree with you there micky as he lunched Ł1000 worth of rods due to oil surge after he got his car handling bang on and has had to baffle and gate his sump!

Micky

Unlucky!!!I'm doing trackdays a long time,run slicks and can drive a bit and never had a problem.And I know a few of the hardcore trackday RST owners,and none of them have lost an engine due to surge.Up to people to spend the money and get one made,but I really don't think its needed.Regards,Micky

botters

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maybe he had a standard sump and not an rs one with the plate in? sounds possible i suppose glad to know they aint needed tho as its one less thing i have to buy for mine lol!

Micky

I know what you mean about the RS sump,even the XR3i sump does'nt have the plate!!Regards,Micky

xr2wishy

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Daz only had a standard sump in at the time, it didn't have the baffle in it.
he bout a copy sump and didn't check, but why would he.

Chris69

I didn't realise the RST sump was different- i have a copy sump on mine aswell.
something to note for future i spose - did the frst have a plate in at aswell?

Micky

That clears up why Daz had the failure.Easy mistake to make as you say.Regards,Micky

DazC

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I had the sump years ago. It had nothing in it but a windage tray. It may probably have been fine on a pretty standard car.

Thinking back, I remember my old Orion 1.6i Ghia had a standard Ford baffled sump and didn't think anything of it when I fitted this other sump. I always remember the sump being a bit fiddly to get the pick up pipe past the baffles on the Onion and the basic sump just goes on really easy. I see a lot of RSTs with empty sumps now! Nothing more than a windage tray!

haz87

Anyone got a pic of a standard RST sump with the baffle?

Fiecos Dan

Sorry if this brings up a old post, but i just noticed it.

The photo's above are of one of my 'Baffled' standard sumps i do.

I strongely disagree about the 'NO' need for a baffle'd sump's on CVH's, as i have done alot of testing, and development to get to my final design'd baffle'd Sump.

Most gauges dont show oil pressure drop, as are not quick enough, but if you fit a fast gauge on a standard RST, then the surge is terrible (cornering, acceleration and braking)

The cams on a CVH is the first thing that suffers due to oil surge.

jonny s2

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well i got a baffled sump on mine now
just for piece of mind

gus

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yeah me too

prevention is better than cure imo

jonny s2

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good man

martinmilne

would there be any point on a road car or is it just needed for the track ?

Karlos G

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Depends how you drive on the road mate

nigel b

mine was blowing turbos with no baffled sump on track days
ill never know now

slimwynn

did you all baffle your own sumps yourself or did you get somone to do it for ya, if so who's the best to do it cheers.