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Old 16-08-2009, 07:59 AM
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Hi all,

Pretty much as the title states really, How much should i be expecting to pay for the conversion and can anybody reccomend where i should go.

I'm based in Herts/Essex area.

I'm not the most mecahincly minded so am not going to try myself
Old 16-08-2009, 08:16 AM
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I was quoted 1500pounds to convert my s1 to run efi inlet manifold and omex management. That was at mikeanics motorsport up my area.
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can get it done for about 900 all in with independant management and wasted spark.
send me a pm if you want the number.
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Originally Posted by kidsRS
I was quoted 1500pounds to convert my s1 to run efi inlet manifold and omex management. That was at mikeanics motorsport up my area.
Do they supply all parts needed?
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My megasquirt efi conversion cost something like this:

From local scrapper:

Intake manifold, fuel rail, throttle body,brake booster pipe,edis parts (efi flywheel, vr-sensor &bracket,,loom, coilpack+bracket,spark plug wires, edis unit) ~100£
(if you want it look good sandblasting/painting parts costs extra. I sandblasted all parts and get those professional painted.
efi throttle pedal 5£


Another parts:

Megasquirt efi unit v2.2 200£
loom parts 50£
new bigger injectors 200£
efi throttle cable 20£
Fuel lines 40£
Quality cone filter 80£
Custom intake pipe 30£
Innovate wideband lambda 130£ (really important!)

And then the installation costs extra. And i recommend set of NEW injectors, you can newer know what shit those second hand injectors are even if serviced.

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Thanks for all your replys guys. I'm really keen to get this done as i want that extra bit of power.

Just been ripped off so many times with mechanics and sprayers so im a bit cautious now.
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std MFI - STD ford EFI - no gain in power!

Personally if ure MFI is working fine and your not running at 200bhp or whatever then I wouldnt bother converting unless your wanting to tidy up the engine bay, less clutter..
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Originally Posted by vroooom ptssssh
std MFI - STD ford EFI - no gain in power!

Personally if ure MFI is working fine and your not running at 200bhp or whatever then I wouldnt bother converting unless your wanting to tidy up the engine bay, less clutter..
Somehow disagree. I'm sure everyone who has gone from MFI to EFI has not only experienced better drivability but also some power gains.
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NMS drive in drive out efi conversion is 2k iirc.
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Originally Posted by JokerDisco
Somehow disagree. I'm sure everyone who has gone from MFI to EFI has not only experienced better drivability but also some power gains.

What, including me? Hmm..ok.

So how does the power increase from std ford MFI - EFI?
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Mikeanics supply all parts needed
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efi means easier to gain power and runs better.

not instantly, no way
Old 17-08-2009, 07:26 PM
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2nd hand injetors are fine providing they have been cleaned and TESTED using a propper injector cleaner and tester.
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Originally Posted by orionmojo
NMS drive in drive out efi conversion is 2k iirc.
norris uses cossie management which is the same as ODDKIDD CREATIONS so why pay 2k when oddkidd does it cheaper?
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Originally Posted by Antti O
My megasquirt efi conversion cost something like this:

From local scrapper:

Intake manifold, fuel rail, throttle body,brake booster pipe,edis parts (efi flywheel, vr-sensor &bracket,,loom, coilpack+bracket,spark plug wires, edis unit) ~100£
(if you want it look good sandblasting/painting parts costs extra. I sandblasted all parts and get those professional painted.
efi throttle pedal 5£


Another parts:

Megasquirt efi unit v2.2 200£
loom parts 50£
new bigger injectors 200£
efi throttle cable 20£
Fuel lines 40£
Quality cone filter 80£
Custom intake pipe 30£
Innovate wideband lambda 130£ (really important!)

And then the installation costs extra. And i recommend set of NEW injectors, you can newer know what shit those second hand injectors are even if serviced.
You have actually paid more than what mine cost to have supplied and fitted!
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Originally Posted by morph
norris uses cossie management which is the same as ODDKIDD CREATIONS so why pay 2k when oddkidd does it cheaper?
just an option mate.

I use NMS for my turbo, i'd rather pay the extra for karl and ollie to do it cos i've used them before after getting refrences from people on here, my rs hasn't skipped a beat since they touched it over 4 months ago.
If anything happened to it after OKC had converted it and NMS would have to backtrack someone elses work which is both frustrating and again costly for me!.

its swings and roundabouts.
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Originally Posted by kidsRS
Mikeanics supply all parts needed
Cheers mate
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at the moment running MFI i should already be hitting about the 200bhp mark.

The last garage that uprated my fuel pump kept saying i would gain so much by going EFI. Better driveability and alot more option to increase the bhp as i cant go much more due to he MFI ????? dunno how accurate this is but can only go from what im being told

To be honest the main reason is i want more power i have enough torque to rip my car in half but want more speed from it. Obviously the better driveibilty will help with the extra power aswell.

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Originally Posted by liddon21
at the moment running MFI i should already be hitting about the 200bhp mark.

The last garage that uprated my fuel pump kept saying i would gain so much by going EFI. Better driveability and alot more option to increase the bhp as i cant go much more due to he MFI ????? dunno how accurate this is but can only go from what im being told

To be honest the main reason is i want more power i have enough torque to rip my car in half but want more speed from it. Obviously the better driveibilty will help with the extra power aswell.
True! having full efi setup the car is so much better than mfi, igntion is totally mappable, fueling is spot on, and you can have the boost come in in different ways like making it much more proggresive!
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Originally Posted by morph
norris uses cossie management which is the same as ODDKIDD CREATIONS so why pay 2k when oddkidd does it cheaper?
Some people prefer to have work done but people that have a very good reputation.

Personally id rather spend a few extra £'s and have my car worked on by specialists not by someone who runs of his parents front garden.

Matt
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Originally Posted by morph
You have actually paid more than what mine cost to have supplied and fitted!
Yours included wideband lambda package?
I know my setup is not cheapest you can buy, but i believe it is well worth it.
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Originally Posted by matt p
Some people prefer to have work done but people that have a very good reputation.

Personally id rather spend a few extra £'s and have my car worked on by specialists not by someone who runs of his parents front garden.

Matt
oddkidd doesn't work from his parents garden? i swear he has his own company and a good reputation at converting to cossie management!
It isn't allways a case of how much something cost that reflects the quality.
2k for something thats nearly 20 years old just seems ridculous!

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Originally Posted by Antti O
Yours included wideband lambda package?
I know my setup is not cheapest you can buy, but i believe it is well worth it.
don't know if its wideband its closed loop lambda on mine and all controlled via the ecu o plugins as such if any.
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i'm now running efi, and it's much better than a carb turbo setup or the mfi on my erst powered cab.
ok, ecu £330, wideband £230, inlet/sandwich plate/engine loom £100, injectors £40, miscellaneous parts £50 -pipe etc.
then time an dfuel to map it.
better driveability, better economy than either of the previously mentioned setups, granted mfi isn't too bad on fuel once setup, but lacks the finesse of the efi, on boost and off.
megasquirt isn't for everyone, but decent management can be bought for reasonable money.

just to add i already had bay loom, flywheel and other bits and pieces from a stripped car i had.

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well my conversion has come to a sudden halt due to some a** hole driving up my rear and writting off my car
but thanks for the info guys never know might get the engine into another shell.
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sorry to hear that! reshell it!
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Originally Posted by matt p
Some people prefer to have work done but people that have a very good reputation.

Personally id rather spend a few extra £'s and have my car worked on by specialists not by someone who runs of his parents front garden.

Matt


lol at working out the garden.
Jano did start from his parents garden over 10 years ago working out of a double garage.

We all start somewhere, he worked on his own motors then his pals untill he is where he is today.

Now his reputation is second to none! Even if you prefer others the fact is your tuner is inferior

He has a massive yard with ramps, office, store rooms, diagnostic machines, co machines etc etc.. Charges what the job is worth and will not have you over like many others! Also what i really like is that no-one else works for him. He says that if anyone is going make a mistake on customers cars it will be him only, this way no mistakes will be made.

Also OKC has never advertised anywhere ever. Everything is word of mouth which speaks for itself, if thats not enough then have a good look at the cars he builds.


Mine was in there on this pic,

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i can never get hold of him want him to look at mine can he set cars up to ?? love his cars and every car he has worked on top bloke
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I would definately consider Jano, nice bloke from my experiences
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Originally Posted by O.K.C
lol at working out the garden.
Jano did start from his parents garden over 10 years ago working out of a double garage.

We all start somewhere, he worked on his own motors then his pals untill he is where he is today.

Now his reputation is second to none! Even if you prefer others the fact is your tuner is inferior

He has a massive yard with ramps, office, store rooms, diagnostic machines, co machines etc etc.. Charges what the job is worth and will not have you over like many others! Also what i really like is that no-one else works for him. He says that if anyone is going make a mistake on customers cars it will be him only, this way no mistakes will be made.

Also OKC has never advertised anywhere ever. Everything is word of mouth which speaks for itself, if thats not enough then have a good look at the cars he builds.


Mine was in there on this pic,

I think its a case of some peeps like to have good excuse as to why they blew 2k for something that can easily be done for 1200-1500! if they think they need to prove to other people that they got a good deal then fair play to them!
Its the same with a 300bhp engine i had a quote for 1 by NMS and then decided to goelse where for a quarter of the price!
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i want to work there!
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everyone has to start somewhere.
MA developments started off from marks driveway.......
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Originally Posted by O.K.C
lol at working out the garden.
Jano did start from his parents garden over 10 years ago working out of a double garage.

We all start somewhere, he worked on his own motors then his pals untill he is where he is today.

Now his reputation is second to none! Even if you prefer others the fact is your tuner is inferior

He has a massive yard with ramps, office, store rooms, diagnostic machines, co machines etc etc.. Charges what the job is worth and will not have you over like many others! Also what i really like is that no-one else works for him. He says that if anyone is going make a mistake on customers cars it will be him only, this way no mistakes will be made.

Also OKC has never advertised anywhere ever. Everything is word of mouth which speaks for itself, if thats not enough then have a good look at the cars he builds.


Mine was in there on this pic,

I will second how good Jano is. My mate bought a cab on L8 management and the from the word go had problems with it. He ended up booking it in at a local tuner who could'nt diagnose a definate fault so he rang Jano. We drove the extra distance (bearing in mind we live in Blackpool) and within an hour Jano had diagnosed and fixed the problem for a very small fee. In this particular case paying more definatley doesnt mean a superior service as Jano is second to none. Would highly recomend.
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