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Totally agree Tony. Those cages are more of a danger
for a show car,doubt it,davie doesnt rag his car,its not a track car and only used for shows,if he or even me used the car on track then id say yes its a danger
Totally agree Tony. Those cages are more of a danger
for a show car,doubt it,davie doesnt rag his car,its not a track car and only used for shows,if he or even me used the car on track then id say yes its a danger
I'm with Cliff on this if it's a bufty show cage. You don't have to be doing anything wrong to find yourself upside down. My brother knows this all to well when he was hit in the side and flipped over.
Totally agree Tony. Those cages are more of a danger
for a show car,doubt it,davie doesnt rag his car,its not a track car and only used for shows,if he or even me used the car on track then id say yes its a danger
I'm with Cliff on this if it's a bufty show cage. You don't have to be doing anything wrong to find yourself upside down. My brother knows this all to well when he was hit in the side and flipped over.
personally i dont a fuck who your with,davie was asking he if should leave seats in or out not cage,if youve no positive input on the post then dont post,is there any facts behind these cages being a danger or is it just not pf tuv approved,i mean how many people have actully died with these cages being the cause,would be minimal im sure,prob more poeple died with leaving empty ginger bottles on floor or something on the back shelf
saying that these cages are a danger if it flips,well that would depend on the scenario,not just sayin if you flip it your dead,if it bothers you that much then take your complaint to the manufacturers
I have got positive input, don't fit a potentially dangerous show cage. How much more valid positive input would you like?
The bufty cage danger has been raised and discussed on this very forum many times and the general consensus by those that know about roll cages is they are potentially dangerous in an accident whether you're flipped over or not.
I'm not saying all bufty cages are shit and dangerous but without knowing who made it I wouldn't be happy advising it be fitted.
Totally agree Tony. Those cages are more of a danger
for a show car,doubt it,davie doesnt rag his car,its not a track car and only used for shows,if he or even me used the car on track then id say yes its a danger
I'm with Cliff on this if it's a bufty show cage. You don't have to be doing anything wrong to find yourself upside down. My brother knows this all to well when he was hit in the side and flipped over.
personally i dont a fuck who your with,davie was asking he if should leave seats in or out not cage,if youve no positive input on the post then dont post,is there any facts behind these cages being a danger or is it just not pf tuv approved,i mean how many people have actully died with these cages being the cause,would be minimal im sure,prob more poeple died with leaving empty ginger bottles on floor or something on the back shelf
saying that these cages are a danger if it flips,well that would depend on the scenario,not just sayin if you flip it your dead,if it bothers you that much then take your complaint to the manufacturers
rant over
So you are swearing and throwing your teddies out of the pram because we feel the need to tell a fellow ford enthusiast that we think in our opinion that he would be better off with a real cage in for his own safety.
I can imagine that being Scottish is not nice; but can you take it out on your parents. Not us
I have got positive input, don't fit a potentially dangerous show cage. How much more valid positive input would you like?
potential? so its not actually dangerous built has potential to be dangerous,as i said many people have actauly died with the cage being the cause,is it only dangerous if you flip?,what about if you hit a tree side on?,whats the outcome then? would it protect side impact?or maybe should we not plant trees as they are potentially dangerous in a crash,come on,theres potential dangers everyday in life
Originally Posted by Oranoco
The bufty cage danger has been raised and discussed on this very forum many times and the general consensus by those that know about roll cages is they are potentially dangerous in an accident whether you're flipped over or not.
not pf aprroved then
Originally Posted by Oranoco
I'm not saying all bufty cages are shit and dangerous but without knowing who made it I wouldn't be happy advising it be fitted.
its a les hicks cage,same one rudey had in his imperial blue rst many a year back,which iirc did not have the hysteria around it when he fitted it
Totally agree Tony. Those cages are more of a danger
for a show car,doubt it,davie doesnt rag his car,its not a track car and only used for shows,if he or even me used the car on track then id say yes its a danger
I'm with Cliff on this if it's a bufty show cage. You don't have to be doing anything wrong to find yourself upside down. My brother knows this all to well when he was hit in the side and flipped over.
personally i dont a fuck who your with,davie was asking he if should leave seats in or out not cage,if youve no positive input on the post then dont post,is there any facts behind these cages being a danger or is it just not pf tuv approved,i mean how many people have actully died with these cages being the cause,would be minimal im sure,prob more poeple died with leaving empty ginger bottles on floor or something on the back shelf
saying that these cages are a danger if it flips,well that would depend on the scenario,not just sayin if you flip it your dead,if it bothers you that much then take your complaint to the manufacturers
rant over
So you are swearing and throwing your teddies out of the pram because we feel the need to tell a fellow ford enthusiast that we think in our opinion that he would be better off with a real cage in for his own safety.
I can imagine that being Scottish is not nice; but can you take it out on your parents. Not us
if safetys an issue then driving a mk4 escort is not exactly safety personified is it,so fitting a proper cage with all the bars is that really safer if you could potentially hit your head of it in a crash or you gonna tell us we need to drive about wearing helmets now,davie does arund 2-3k miles a year to shows,not trackdays,not used a daily runner just shows so why go to all the trouble to fit a fuck off roll cage for something that may never happen,for safety? well surely stayin in is safer if your wantin safety
being scottish is the best ever mate,everyone loves the scots,anywhere we go we are loved by everyone,can you say the same
Totally agree Tony. Those cages are more of a danger
for a show car,doubt it,davie doesnt rag his car,its not a track car and only used for shows,if he or even me used the car on track then id say yes its a danger
I'm with Cliff on this if it's a bufty show cage. You don't have to be doing anything wrong to find yourself upside down. My brother knows this all to well when he was hit in the side and flipped over.
personally i dont a fuck who your with,davie was asking he if should leave seats in or out not cage,if youve no positive input on the post then dont post,is there any facts behind these cages being a danger or is it just not pf tuv approved,i mean how many people have actully died with these cages being the cause,would be minimal im sure,prob more poeple died with leaving empty ginger bottles on floor or something on the back shelf
saying that these cages are a danger if it flips,well that would depend on the scenario,not just sayin if you flip it your dead,if it bothers you that much then take your complaint to the manufacturers
rant over
So you are swearing and throwing your teddies out of the pram because we feel the need to tell a fellow ford enthusiast that we think in our opinion that he would be better off with a real cage in for his own safety.
I can imagine that being Scottish is not nice; but can you take it out on your parents. Not us
if safetys an issue then driving a mk4 escort is not exactly safety personified is it,so fitting a proper cage with all the bars is that really safer if you could potentially hit your head of it in a crash or you gonna tell us we need to drive about wearing helmets now,davie does arund 2-3k miles a year to shows,not trackdays,not used a daily runner just shows so why go to all the trouble to fit a fuck off roll cage for something that may never happen,for safety? well surely stayin in is safer if your wantin safety
being scottish is the best ever mate,everyone loves the scots,anywhere we go we are loved by everyone,can you say the same
Loved everywhere you go. That must be for your sense of humour of which you are displaying above
Just so that you know on here. We use the smilie to say things in jest, have a little joke, add a little light hearted humour
I have served with 3 Scottish regiments of which I have immensly enjoyed. So I know what Scottish people are like
Fair enough he doesn't do many miles etc but the cage is still dangerous. Fact.
Loved everywhere you go. That must be for your sense of humour of which you are displaying above
no not because of that because scots are not arrogant which you are displayin above
Originally Posted by Cliff S1
Just so that you know on here. We use the smilie to say things in jest, have a little joke, add a little light hearted humour
we as in me and you,you and oranaco,the full passioford members,whats we,am i not part of that we or do i need to jump on a couple of bandwagons before im accepted as we
just for reference i use this smiley for i dont care
Originally Posted by Cliff S1
I have served with 3 Scottish regiments of which I have immensly enjoyed. So I know what Scottish people are like
so you served with a couple of bumboys in the regiment and your qualified to tell me what scottish people are like
Originally Posted by Cliff S1
Fair enough he doesn't do many miles etc but the cage is still dangerous. Fact.
fact? so youve got evidence/statistics to back this up or have you just read it on a forum somewhere
yeah its potentially dangerous if you crash,but so is a crash potentially dangerous if you crash << i use this smiley when laughin in jest
Loved everywhere you go. That must be for your sense of humour of which you are displaying above
no not because of that because scots are not arrogant which you are displayin above
Note I said everywhere YOU go; of which YOU are displaying above. Did I mention anyone else in that particular sentence? No
Originally Posted by Cliff S1
Just so that you know on here. We use the smilie to say things in jest, have a little joke, add a little light hearted humour
we as in me and you,you and oranaco,the full passioford members,whats we,am i not part of that we or do i need to jump on a couple of bandwagons before im accepted as we
just for reference i use this smiley for i dont care
If you don't care then why are you replying?
Originally Posted by Cliff S1
I have served with 3 Scottish regiments of which I have immensly enjoyed. So I know what Scottish people are like
so you served with a couple of bumboys in the regiment and your qualified to tell me what scottish people are like
Knowing and being qualified are two very different things.
Originally Posted by Cliff S1
Fair enough he doesn't do many miles etc but the cage is still dangerous. Fact.
fact? so youve got evidence/statistics to back this up or have you just read it on a forum somewhere
yeah its potentially dangerous if you crash,but so is a crash potentially dangerous if you crash << i use this smiley when laughin in jest
You'd be better off not having it in the car if you have an accident as it could split and hurt someone in the car.
If Davie were my friend I would be concerned for his safety.
But it seems apparent that your advice is about as good as your grammar, spelling and punctuation