Bakster

It is no problem to make manifold for standard starter But just I must take 5 and more to have price 160 pounds

Christian and Beccy

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I have a small gear-reduction starter, it is the alternator I am worried about. Can that be resolved?

Bakster

Can you give me photos of this??

LEE-RS

heres a pic of your alternator arrowed red

can they build the manifold so we can use the original rs turbo alternator so the turbo downpipe dont touch it

so they have got to move the turbo arrowed yellow more to the right

Bakster

I have oryginal rs turbo alternator.... but starter have from fiesta 1.0!!!! But your manifold will be for serial starter


Yes we will put him to the right on the photo will be good

G2RSR

them manifold's that Bakster posted look real good i just hope that some company don't start buying them and cut us off like jamsport did with the Hansenturbo manifold's and selling them for £300 more than he did

Gregor

Gonna weld my own manifold soon... just wondering if there's any difference in performance between Bakster's manifold and the earlier hansenturbo's manifold..

Thnx

Christian and Beccy

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Well said.

Bakster, that's great. Surely the problems with the Starter are more related to the Downpipe than the turbo itself?

I reckon if these can be done fairly soon, I'm in.

Christian and Beccy

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There is no way to prove that easily unless someone can try both.

Fiecos Dan

And do it fairly/truth fully.

Billy_RS

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Bakster


If you can fit the manifold without having to move to alternater or starter motor. I will 100% have one.

Christian and Beccy

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I don't see the point in comparison's, in these circumstances. It's not as though a practical fair comparison is viable. At the end of the day, this is one of the only manifold options and if its sub £300, then I'm all for taking the chance to be honest.

Fiecos Dan

Your engine would be the best test bed, and your RR will also be a good aid.

Christian and Beccy

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That's what I think, so lets get it going on!! Get me one of these NOW!!

Christian and Beccy

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I am prepared to refit my GT30 with the standard manifold and do some back-to-back testing with the new manifold and post the results in as much detail as is needed if this comes off.

Fiecos Dan

Offer it to Han's too.



Then you can test the std item, Han's and This one.

And buy the winner for £300.

Christian and Beccy

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To be honest, that's more agro than it's worth. It's not like I can even use the same downpipe.

I personally don't think there will be that much to decide on between the different tubular manifolds, but that a tubular manifold will be beneficial in general. The only question I can't answer is at what point does the standard manifold become a problem.

Fiecos Dan

Fair enough.



Is your Std mani flowed at all?

Gregor

That's True.

Well i'll make something and you'll see the end result...

Bakster

Ok soo... My idea is... I will send first manifold to try... and you will tell wha should be better... and the second one... for what kinf of turbo must by this manifold, becouse I have T3/T4 and what about down pipe.... would you like down pipe 3'???????

Paddy rst

ad also be interested in one of these manifolds if it fits without normal alternator/starter clearances etc etc. christians got my vote to be the guinea pig

Christian and Beccy

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There is only one small snag. I run a T28 style Turbo flange. It's not a major problem, but would mean that mine would have to have this style of flange on it.

I plan to change to External Wastegate, but it's hard to figure how to integrate this into the experiment if it happens. I don't mind doing the research & development, but don't want to change my plans very much.

Ideally I would like to buy a new Turbine Housing for my External Wastegate conversion, and that new housing could have a T3 style flange, but it would also be suited to External Wastegate.

Confusing!!

crazycage

t28 or t3 flange and loads of space for down pipe ,

Rick

hmm

maybe i can drive over and get a prototyper made up on my car. Loads of family to see. WHere are MG based?

Bakster

Rick it is 700 km from Szczecin So go to me and we togethor drive to MG Christian you want manifold for "exit wastgate"?? like on this picture??

Christian and Beccy

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Yes, exactly like the one on your car, but with External Wastegate port and T28 flange.

That picture you just posted is an Evo? What BHP does that have?

Billy_RS

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Christian and Beccy



If it goes well would you start stocking them at apt?

Bakster

about 700

mitchrst

700 bhp EVO

I bet thats rapid

Christian and Beccy

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Well, the problem with that is that we have openly discussed group-buy level prices, so it would be difficult now to sell them at a 'marked-up' price necessary for someone that has over-heads!!

Does that make sense?

Bakster,

So, how do we move this forward then?

Bakster

I call to my friend and he said that this Lancer now have about 1200 bhp He will send me more photos

Bakster

So You must tell me for what turbo will be firs manifold and I will send you him and you will tell me is he good and what should be better Is it good idea??

turboben

i will have one too mate

LEE-RS

yeah but say even if you sell them for £300 and you buy them in 10 at a time its still alot cheaper than others on the market but your still making profit to cover your over-heads etc

and one of the biggest selling points will be it will be on the fastest rs turbo in the world

Christian and Beccy

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Mine is a GT30. I would like to run External Wastegate, so the manifold would need a port for this really. I can change Turbine housing for T3 style flange.

Lets do it!!

Jamie Going

i wish i could make £300 on each manifold as a buisness point , but iam just trying to provid a service with a excellent product . the hansen manifold is top quaility and does exactly what i and you would want it to do, i have sold and fitted many of these manifolds with no loses only gains.

everybody says they can get a better deal if they can than so be it , hansen charges £475 a manifold then there is import duty of 5%, vat 17.5% ,if u buy them form me or from hansen u will still have to pay theses charges i can not control taxes in this country

christain u wanted a manifold from us , we offered u one a price that was costing us money we was payin the vat , this was still not good enough for u.

we seen many different makes of manifolds on many different cars, big name jap makes and these have all fractured on the welds and tubes, theses are not cheap manifolds , to date we have had no failures in any way with hansens manifolds on engine dyno or road cars that are used every day.

im sorry u all think its to much money but i think this is great valve for money for a excellent product that shows great results and has out standing build quailty

thanks jamie

Billy_RS

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Go on Christian!

Jamie Going

wrc manifold i got 1 upstairs if any one wants 1 2.5k

Christian and Beccy

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Jamie, I aren't knocking what you do. As a business operating from proper premises, like you, I know what it's like.

To be honest, you made a kind offer and I appreciate it, but my project is still done, believe it or not, on a very limited budget. I would be more inclined to 'have-a-go' at adapting something before I paid £500+. That's no reflection on what you are doing and it's a risk on my part.

However, at circa £200, I will take the risk and if Bakster can come up with something positive, I'm ready to move.

I personally don't think there is that much separating all the different manifolds, maybe I'm wrong. The question is at what point is a Tubular Manifold needed and that will be a hard question to answer.

Oh, the joys of development.

Bakster

Christian I'm waiting for pictures of manifold with exit waste gate When I get this pictures I will show you