dee00

was just going to change my clutch from a standard RS Turbo clutch to a AP organic, Guy told me that i might have to change the quaderen???

Help!!!!

Chris69

the pedal quadrant mate
AP reccommend u change to a mk6 peal with manual adjustment- you then use a different pedal quadrant/ratchet to match up with the pedal

SafeChav

As said, its recommended but not essantial.

But by changing the quadrant you will:

1. Lose all chances of the auto adjuster ever failing (which they often do)

2. Be able to adjust the pedal height to suit your needs

3. Have a lighter pedal and also will get a higher lift on the pressure plate



Not really anything good about keeping the old one apart from they are a pain to fit

GUZZLER

iTrader: (3)

it is essantial on some cars, some are ok but some suffer with bad drag etc with a standard pedal/quadrant


the conversion is not hard to do, dosn't cost a lot (about Ł25) & its a lot easier than re-fitting a standard quadrant

Rick

As Guzzler. IMO, it IS an essential conversion. And it is so much nicer to drive.

notSteveS2

on my car u have to push ya finger up behind the pedal and push a little catch to release the cable... is this standard or mk 6???

dee00

what quadrant should i get ?

SafeChav

You need to order a MK6 escort quadrant, 58mm NOT 55mm, and it shoud be white in colour, NOT black, and a MK6 pedal.

dee00

cheers mate, but is it somthing i have to do or could i get away with just fitting the clutch and not changing the quadrant, what would happen if i dont change the quadrant......???

SafeChav

Read what i said above, that says everything you will gain over the old one......

JesseT

How can you get more clutch travel AND a lighter pedal?
I'm at least using the standard mk3 quadrant with my AP and have absolutely no issues with the pedal. The clutch could take some more torque tough...

SafeChav

The pedal is lighter, because you are using a larger diameter Quadrant, the same way its easier to undo bolts with a ratchet with the longest handle possible

And you get more lift also again because the quadrant is a larger diameter, it has a larger circumference so it pulls more cable when fully depressed

Rab

Listen to him, he's a smart lad!

SafeChav

Gosh.....i feel all spesh now lol

John Laverick

In-correct......

As JesseT says you can't have BOTH increased clutch travel AND a lighter pedal.

The imposed load into the system is not directly applied to the Quadrant lever but to the pedal arm. The output is related to the lever arm ratio.

You can have either a lighter pedal and less stroke OR a stiffer pedal and a longer stroke.

It is possible to prove by moment equations but I'm not going to

Christian and Beccy

iTrader: (14)

Here you go......

http://www.apracing.com/roadcar/clutch/epmods.htm

Takes some fiddling to get it right if you want the pedal to end up not being higher than normal, but worthwhile IMO.

My Alcon 6-Paddle feels SO nice to drive with.

SafeChav

Indeed, spoke Jesse online immediately after and realised this

So i take it back