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TURBO BOI 29-06-2006 03:05 PM

efi conversion
 
Ive put on the sierra crank pulley and this is how the teeth line up against the cps sensor, good enough? or does the teeth have to be spot in the middle of the cps sensor to read it?

https://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c...06-06_1412.jpg

throttle cable bracket, mine hits the lower part of the mainifold, is it on the right wasy round? or shall i cut the bracket?

https://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c...06-06_1416.jpg

SafeChav 29-06-2006 04:10 PM

As long as the cps is near enough central it will be fine, they are very wide teeth on that pulley after all.

Which part of the bracket hits? :? I presume you do know the bottom lug is meant to go over the thread before the nuts holding the manifold on are tightened to the head?

TURBO BOI 29-06-2006 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by SafeChav
As long as the cps is near enough central it will be fine, they are very wide teeth on that pulley after all.

Which part of the bracket hits? :? I presume you do know the bottom lug is meant to go over the thread before the nuts holding the manifold on are tightened to the head?

ive got a adapter plate on mine between the mainifold and the head so the mainifols sits back further so the lug wont sit on the thread, guess il have to chop it :(

SafeChav 29-06-2006 07:09 PM

oooooooohhhhhh, now i get you. There are 2 types of throttle bracket, i believe the later ones mount from the top and side so that will sole your problem :top:

Be better than cutting yours IMO ;)

TURBO BOI 29-06-2006 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by SafeChav
oooooooohhhhhh, now i get you. There are 2 types of throttle bracket, i believe the later ones mount from the top and side so that will sole your problem :top:

Be better than cutting yours IMO ;)

oh wkd didnt know there were to types of bracket :top:

Ive cut mine now :DD:

SafeChav 29-06-2006 07:14 PM

Indeed there is, the later ones are less interfering with the injectors etc aswell, get the bracket do it properly ;)

That said.....yours should still still fit behind the nut, it shifts the whole manifold back :?

Unless there isn't enough thread.....

TURBO BOI 29-06-2006 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by SafeChav
Indeed there is, the later ones are less interfering with the injectors etc aswell, get the bracket do it properly ;)

That said.....yours should still still fit behind the nut, it shifts the whole manifold back :?

Unless there isn't enough thread.....

i had some dodgy threads on it, there were all too short so i replaced them with some rover k series ones i had it the garage, these are long enough but not to have that bracket aswell, il get the other type bracket when its up and running :top:

SafeChav 29-06-2006 07:19 PM

The last thing you want is the throttle bracket moving and jamming fully open......... ;)

TURBO BOI 29-06-2006 07:22 PM

its got 2 other bolts holding it, sure be ok untill i get another 1 :top: i hope :cry:

SafeChav 29-06-2006 07:25 PM

Blu-tak? :cry: :cry: :cry:

TURBO BOI 29-06-2006 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by SafeChav
Blu-tak? :cry: :cry: :cry:

good thinking :top:

running efi on the cabby?

SafeChav 29-06-2006 07:59 PM

They don't call me brains for nothing :blabla:

Will be..........if i ever pull my finger out :roll:

Versus_Creations 01-07-2006 07:00 PM

:cry: :cry:

TURBO BOI 08-07-2006 04:46 PM

how can i get the crank pulley tight? wana tighten it up, ive put it in gear but the engine still turns over when i try to tighten it

SafeChav 08-07-2006 08:12 PM

The way i usually do it, is put the car in gear with the handbrake yanked up, the engine will turn over a little until all the gears in the box mesh up tight etc, but thats the way.

Not a lot of space to get a ratchet in there is there :roll:

TURBO BOI 08-07-2006 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by SafeChav
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Not a lot of space to get a ratchet in there is there :roll:

not to bad with the engine jacked up with out the mount on, i can get a ring spanner in there :cry:

Versus_Creations 09-07-2006 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by SafeChav
The way i usually do it, is put the car in gear with the handbrake yanked up, the engine will turn over a little until all the gears in the box mesh up tight etc, but thats the way.


So you are using the cam belt to hold the crank while yanking on a spanner. Nice one :clap:

Good advise..





Or you could lock the flywheel up from the starter motor hole. :roll:

DazC 09-07-2006 12:58 PM

Jano,

He asked about tightening the crank pulley mate, not the cam pulley.

SafeChav 09-07-2006 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by DazC
Jano,

He asked about tightening the crank pulley mate, not the cam pulley.

Ditto, reply was a bit sarcy don't you think....... :roll:

Versus_Creations 09-07-2006 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by Jano_OddKidd

Originally Posted by SafeChav
The way i usually do it, is put the car in gear with the handbrake yanked up, the engine will turn over a little until all the gears in the box mesh up tight etc, but thats the way.


So you are using the cam belt to hold the crank while yanking on a spanner.

Which is why is was a question? :top:


If the engine is in gear, with the head on...

Then trying to tighten pulley bolt will turn engine just a little before it locks up. If on the off chance the cam has stopped in the wrong position you could damage the valve. However small the chances are. There is still a chance which i wouldnt want to take, either on my own engine or customers.

HTH
Regards
Jano

SafeChav 09-07-2006 01:51 PM

So now you are talking about the bottom end spinning over and hitting a valve because there is no cam belt on..... :?

Versus_Creations 09-07-2006 02:16 PM

At the end of the day its as simple as this.

Bottom bolt is done up while locked by flywheel.

SafeChav 09-07-2006 02:18 PM

Once again you have avoided the question :roll:

Yes locking the flywheel is one way of doing it

Versus_Creations 09-07-2006 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by SafeChav
Once again you have avoided the question :roll:

Yes locking the flywheel is one way of doing it

Andy i have better things to do than answer all your questions.

I am offering advise that is 100% without fail or chances of failing!

Locking the flywheel (Via teeth) or crank (Via flywheel bolts) is the only way the bottom pulley bolt should be done up.

Not while the car is in gear, or any other way.

DazC 09-07-2006 03:27 PM

Lads, he asked how to tighten the bolt holding on the CRANK PULLEY. The timing belt is driven by the TIMING GEAR, not the CRANK PULLEY. A locked crank is a locked crank, however you do it.


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