marcymarc

Hi there

Im just wondering if i could have a little advice, Ive been driving Imprezas for a few years uk turbo..,94wrx,sti type r and im fed up of them , so ive decided to perhaps get an Escort Cosworth as ive loved them since skool days.
but the problem is would i perhaps not appreciate the cosworth due to having some decent scoobs in my time,
So im wondering if there are any of you lot who have come from Imprezas,Evos etc and have an opinion on the matter, or just any general views i would appreciate it.

Azrael

I may be competent person to speak about it so I'll try...

I am moderator for forum.subaru.pl and had been fan of the Subaru cars ever since I saw Impreza Turbo years back. I've driven most kinds of Turbo and STI models avalible here and have some driving skill (kind of rally-driver-in-training). I also own Escort Cossie small turbo with some modifications, rebuild from piece of junk in last couple of years.

The difference if HUGE. Cossie is much more demanding car for the driver. It's simply hard to drive. Most Impreza models are easy or very easy. Cossie is more agressive, has more of rally-car feel to me. Engine wresponse is very agresssive and nothing like smooth EJ20 boxer. But Escos is technically very dated now - the worse conditions the better will Subaru be in comparison. Although my Stage 1 290bhp Escos can be made to go around stage or track as fast as high powerd STI it's only in dry or little wet. On soked road or in snow/gravel it stands no chance at all. Cossie is also very high maitenance car, it does not nececarely brake down a lot, but you have to have things checked and serviced avery now and then, and with Scoobies it wasn't unusuall for people I know to go for 2k km trip just after track-day.

If I could advice something - It's better to have Cossie as demanding car for track, stage use and simply fun on winding road. But as a daily driver, commuter or simply A to B car Scoobies will be 90% of situation better. And Cossie adjusted to be as fast as modern car - with rose-jointed suspentions, hard damping taes, strong LSD's and so on will be even more nasty in everyday use, some people like it though I drive mine whenever it's ready. :-D


One more thing is that you can buy parts easily for any Scoobie and with COssies it's becoming harder and harder - soon this may make more and more cars go off-road from lack of parts. There isn't any real arts support from Ford anymore. Just couple of days ago I got to know that brake pump assembly, brake pump repair kit and some other braking system elements are now shown as deleted on Ford systems.

S3an

another thread to look at for you

https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...light=#2031863

Richie Russ

I think i can comment on this too.

I had two Evo 6's before i bought my Escort Cos, the Evos were a faultless car, i knew it wouldnt break and i knew it would start everytime i went out to my garage, however with the Escort, its a very different issue.

For one most Evos (6's onwards for example) are S plate or newer, so a car thats 6 years old will perform and hold together far better than a car which is 12 years old on the whole.

I got my Cossie as i always fancied one since a nipper, and although im glad i have one, they can be a right pain in the arse, or mine has been anyway mine has cost me a small fortune, i think i have been unlucky with the car i bought, but i didnt expect to buy an Escort Cossie and have it never break down, but to the extent it has is something i cant quite believe, i have near enough replaced everything mechanically

I've not driven a standard Escort Cos, i think i would be bitterly disappointed if i did, so can only comment on my one which flies now and so it should do.

For exclusivity go for an Escort Cos, if you want a car that'll take the punishment of your right foot, handle better, feel far safer in but still be labelled a chav, go for an Evo, i will return back to them one day as they are awesome cars.

Good luck !!

S3an

i cant beleive that a evo never goes wrong, i hear quite often that the drive shafts, diffs and gearboxes can give wayjust as easily as a escos, some people i know have them and say they do go wrong, anyhow it cost Ł250 front and rear for brake pads (each)

Richie Russ

If you go to Mitsubishi direct then yes, of course parts will not be cheap, but its like anything else, its not what you know its who you know, for example, i had uprated discs and pads all round on my Evo and it cost me 150 quid including fitting

Don't believe that they go wrong as often as an Escort Cossie, but i am refering to a 6 or above in the Evo range. Gearboxes do not go pop like Cossie ones, neither do diffs in my experience, but treat them badly and put too much power through them and yes, they'll go pop just like anything else.

Anything up to 400 bhp with a modded clutch on an Evo and you should be safe with the box, diff and internals, again Evo 6 or above

Azrael

Rally people who drive Evo's on road over here have history of front driveshafts failing, rear diffs failing. And this is not from excessive power but rather the just wear incradibly quickly. I remember one guy telling that he had to change rear diff every ~10k km's.