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PT 23-10-2007 02:48 PM

Motorsport Escort Cosworth
 
Maybe a stupid question but when you see one, how do you know if it is a factory made one and not finished by someone after it has left factory :top:

THE RADMAN 23-10-2007 06:03 PM

home made ones usually have lots of tell tale signs,retro fitted electrics,window winder holes blanked off because someone has fitted electric ones, all sorts of odd bits in engine bay,wrong cambelt covers,clips etc etc :cry:

RWD_cossie_wil 23-10-2007 06:17 PM

were the cambelt covers different then? :? Thought it was just trim, ie no electrics, no leather, no recaros, no opening rear 1/4's etc, and first 2500 cars had water injection bag tanks. And Msport cars were all white?

JHS 23-10-2007 06:17 PM

On the other side the genuine ones should have no opening rear windows, no headrests in the rear, no armrest in the rear, no armrest in the front, manual windows and mirrors, no washer jets for headlights, no aerial.

Thats all I remember right now... :)

THE RADMAN 23-10-2007 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
were the cambelt covers different then? :?

no,i meant when they are built up by an individual they use all sorts of bits off 2wd,sapph etc,so its easy to spot the oddments in the engine bay,cambelt covers being a fave :cry:

PT 24-10-2007 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
first 2500 cars had water injection bag tanks. And Msport cars were all white?

So the first 2500 cars were all motorsport cossies?

Msport as in the wrc cars?

JHS 24-10-2007 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by PT

Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
first 2500 cars had water injection bag tanks. And Msport cars were all white?

So the first 2500 cars were all motorsport cossies?

Msport as in the wrc cars?

No, and no...

PT 24-10-2007 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by JHS

Originally Posted by PT

Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
first 2500 cars had water injection bag tanks. And Msport cars were all white?

So the first 2500 cars were all motorsport cossies?

Msport as in the wrc cars?

No, and no...

awesome reply :cry:

what were the msport cossies then?

lowman 24-10-2007 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by JHS
On the other side the genuine ones should have no opening rear windows, no headrests in the rear, no armrest in the rear, no armrest in the front, manual windows and mirrors, no washer jets for headlights, no aerial.

Thats all I remember right now... :)

and no fuel light in the intrument cluster, and no light in the glovebox compartment.:)

RWD_cossie_wil 24-10-2007 10:33 AM

msport- ie motorsport spec escort cosworths. Was the cheapest option to buy an escos with no lextras in white ;) :top: . I belive the first 2500 cars of all colours had the water injection bag tanks :top:

Rippers 24-10-2007 11:01 AM

The confusion is that back in the day you could by a Esc Cos from your local dealer in either Lux, standard or motorsport trim. Lux being full spec with either cloth or leather, standard having a lesser spec and a Motorsport being a lesser spec in White.

In the same era you could buy a bare shell from Ford so you could build it up from scratch for racing and whilst bare do the seam welding/roll cage fitment etc

A M-Sport shell would be a shell that was bought from Ford and modified by the company M-Sport adding the rollcage seam welding, turretts, the pick up points for group-a/wrc equipment and all the other things M-Sport do to there shells. M-sport built the Ford Motorsport GRP-A/WRC shells so would have had the funds and developement to do proper jobs, most where LHD but a few where RHD (like the one on ebay ;) ) and Tommy Fields present yellow monster :top:

JHS 24-10-2007 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by PT
awesome reply :cry:

what were the msport cossies then?

I really spent some time writing that... :cry: Quick one, didnt have time for more, but now mr. Ripley has answered your questions by the looks of it. Looks like hes got it covered :top:

cozzfather 25-10-2007 03:58 PM

ford did not just sell motorsport escort cosworths as a complete car
you could buy a trimmed shell, all the ones i saw were white
with a interior and closures etc just no running gear.

loads of preparation teams built motorsport escort cosworths into rally cars but the best way to do it was from a bare shell.
also M-sport built escort wrc cars, when malcolm wilson built
group a escorts they were called Malclom Wilson Motorsport or MWM.
Malcolm changed the name over when he got the ford contract from R.A.S
:DD:


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