AP's under standard wheels
11-09-2006, 07:09 AM
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AP's under standard wheels
I'm considering putting the car back to standard but still want decent brakes not the std crap Ford jobbies.
I did a search but failed to find a definate answer, can you get a set of AP's under standard escos wheels (NOT Monte) if so what size are the discs and what spec calipers & where can i get them from?
I've read somewhere that its possible but you have to remove material from the calipers, why is this? Would a wheel spacer work instead?
Thanks a lot
I did a search but failed to find a definate answer, can you get a set of AP's under standard escos wheels (NOT Monte) if so what size are the discs and what spec calipers & where can i get them from?
I've read somewhere that its possible but you have to remove material from the calipers, why is this? Would a wheel spacer work instead?
Thanks a lot
11-09-2006, 08:21 AM
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Absolutely no way will they fit under standard wheels (without spacers), and I personally wouldn't recommend maching any material off. What you could do is get sub hub eccentric bells made for it with the spacers built in, but I still think you would have to go to 315mm discs, as there is not enough clearance diameter wise either.
11-09-2006, 04:22 PM
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A guy in the Resto room put AP's behind his standard Escos rims (not monte), he is rebuilding his black sapphire user name NOS something or other I think 
They aren't massive but are AP's and will do the job nicely
They aren't massive but are AP's and will do the job nicely
11-09-2006, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
why back to standard though, looks awesome with the wheels on it.
Originally Posted by MATCOS
A guy in the Resto room put AP's behind his standard Escos rims (not monte), he is rebuilding his black sapphire user name NOS something or other I think
They aren't massive but are AP's and will do the job nicely
They aren't massive but are AP's and will do the job nicely
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Nearer the end than the beginning if I recall correctly
Nearer the end than the beginning if I recall correctly
12-09-2006, 12:01 PM
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Cheers buddy, i've seen the pics. The only problem i can see is those pics are of a 2wd so the disc & caliper sit further away from the inside face of the wheel when compared to a 4x4. Which means I may have to run spacers, if its only a few mm then its no problem but I dont think i'd want big spacers on std wheels
12-09-2006, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MONSTER
dont do this to me Kev 
you are feeling sleepy 
but seriously if for some reason you get hit on the head and wanna sell her, then get hit again and want a FRS please let me know
Ever since ND which was my 30th bday I keep dreaming of a nice big black one
Then after a spin out in Jobbos Sunday to collect mine from service ive gone all... needy for a cosworth After speaking with Duncan @ Automotive Unlimited he said what I want doesnt exsist and maybe I should wait for another 4wd Focus RS ? But what I want does exsist cos you own it
12-09-2006, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
look into my eyes ! dont look anyone but my eyes you are feeling sleepy
Ever since ND which was my 30th bday I keep dreaming of a nice big black one
you are feeling sleepy Ever since ND which was my 30th bday I keep dreaming of a nice big black one
Originally Posted by Kev.H
But what I want does exsist cos you own it
If i ever decide to let it go i'll let you know mate, but you're now 3rd on the waiting list
12-09-2006, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MONSTER
Originally Posted by Kev.H
But what I want does exsist cos you own it
If i ever decide to let it go i'll let you know mate, but you're now 3rd on the waiting list 
Do you have a price in mind if you did ? can you PM me
12-09-2006, 08:10 PM
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As Mike says he has emailed me, I dont have a std alloy to try...
My brakes are AP CP5200 4 pot calipers and AP 315mm discs I can get my Monte alloys over them without a spacer, BUT if the balance weights on the inside of the wheels are to far out (near the face) they catch on the calipers, so IMO std alloys are going to be VERY VERY close, if near impossible ... ???
My brakes are AP CP5200 4 pot calipers and AP 315mm discs I can get my Monte alloys over them without a spacer, BUT if the balance weights on the inside of the wheels are to far out (near the face) they catch on the calipers, so IMO std alloys are going to be VERY VERY close, if near impossible ... ???
12-09-2006, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Damo V
As Mike says he has emailed me, I dont have a std alloy to try...
My brakes are AP CP5200 4 pot calipers and AP 315mm discs I can get my Monte alloys over them without a spacer, BUT if the balance weights on the inside of the wheels are to far out (near the face) they catch on the calipers, so IMO std alloys are going to be VERY VERY close, if near impossible ... ???
My brakes are AP CP5200 4 pot calipers and AP 315mm discs I can get my Monte alloys over them without a spacer, BUT if the balance weights on the inside of the wheels are to far out (near the face) they catch on the calipers, so IMO std alloys are going to be VERY VERY close, if near impossible ... ???
13-09-2006, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Damo V
As Mike says he has emailed me, I dont have a std alloy to try...
My brakes are AP CP5200 4 pot calipers and AP 315mm discs I can get my Monte alloys over them without a spacer, BUT if the balance weights on the inside of the wheels are to far out (near the face) they catch on the calipers, so IMO std alloys are going to be VERY VERY close, if near impossible ... ???
My brakes are AP CP5200 4 pot calipers and AP 315mm discs I can get my Monte alloys over them without a spacer, BUT if the balance weights on the inside of the wheels are to far out (near the face) they catch on the calipers, so IMO std alloys are going to be VERY VERY close, if near impossible ... ???
I can assure you it WILL be impossible without spacing the wheel out, the only thing I am unsure of is whether there is the internal diameter clearance. Surely you can find SOMEONE in your regional group who could lend you a wheel?
If Dave was any kind of person, he would send you one of his to try
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13-09-2006, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
If Dave was any kind of person, he would send you one of his to try .
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Originally Posted by milkman
MONSTER if you decide to sell your wheels and they 19's give me a shout
Originally Posted by M.A.D.RST
Fancy selling me your AP's?
13-09-2006, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Damo V
As Mike says he has emailed me, I dont have a std alloy to try...
My brakes are AP CP5200 4 pot calipers and AP 315mm discs I can get my Monte alloys over them without a spacer, BUT if the balance weights on the inside of the wheels are to far out (near the face) they catch on the calipers, so IMO std alloys are going to be VERY VERY close, if near impossible ... ???
My brakes are AP CP5200 4 pot calipers and AP 315mm discs I can get my Monte alloys over them without a spacer, BUT if the balance weights on the inside of the wheels are to far out (near the face) they catch on the calipers, so IMO std alloys are going to be VERY VERY close, if near impossible ... ???
I can assure you it WILL be impossible without spacing the wheel out, the only thing I am unsure of is whether there is the internal diameter clearance. Surely you can find SOMEONE in your regional group who could lend you a wheel?
If Dave was any kind of person, he would send you one of his to try
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Rene
impossible without spacers
. We just need to know how much is needed....
Originally Posted by Rene
impossible without spacers
Mike?
digging your own grave?
13-09-2006, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
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Damo,. Surely you can find SOMEONE in your regional group who could lend you a wheel?
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Damo,. Surely you can find SOMEONE in your regional group who could lend you a wheel?
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...The only person I can think of is Jim Gallballybelly.... but he is still a fair distance from me
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there are a lot of other brakes that will fit.
look here:
i ve a 4 pot girling saddle with 280 x 26 mm 2 part discs these are on the pic with 17 inch wheels.
These will be up for sale as i m going for 4 pot porsche gt3 saddles (996 model) with 320 x 32 mm discs.
look here:
i ve a 4 pot girling saddle with 280 x 26 mm 2 part discs these are on the pic with 17 inch wheels.
These will be up for sale as i m going for 4 pot porsche gt3 saddles (996 model) with 320 x 32 mm discs.
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