just thought i'd ask incase anyone can give me some advice while i get some lunch and read all the previous advice ive been given for the 20th time.

so far i have located the following wires that i think i need:

black switch live that come from the passenger side and was near where the coil would be.

permanent lives - thick red from startor motor and red from near the fuel pump relay.

black/red startor motor signal.

earth (brown) from nova loom.



I have a round connector plug that i think the black switch live and the black/red startor motor signal goes into.

where do i connect the brown earth from the nova loom?

do other cables connect to the round connectro plug?

i've read that 3 small earths connect to the fuel rail. where would i find these?


does anyone have any pictures that they took while wiring up their xe nova?

 

Sorry mate, its so long since ive wired in a "normal" one i cant really remember half of it now!

The 3 small earths bolt onto the inlet manifold.

Important one you havent mentioned is red/blue, thats the fuel pump.


All the ones you mentioned are correct, that black is the live for the coil OR dis pack, basically same on either.

other things in the round plug IIRC are oil pressure, engine temp etc (ie the displays for the gauges)

green wire is RPM for the rev counter.



hope some of that is of use



www.migweb.co.uk = definitive answers on this

 

cheers chip, ive been on mig, just waiting for a reply.

ive got the fuel pump sorted, thats the easy one.

do u know where i find the 3 small earths to bolt to the inlet manifold?
are they from the nova loom or the xe?

i think i know where all the other sensor wires are, do u think they just go colour to colour in the round connector plug?

 

Not sure of all the colours are the same, but probably, vuaxhall are actually quite sensible with wiring normally.

The earths are on the engine loom, located near the injector clips.

Cant remember if its 2 or 3 though.

 

ok, i'll go and look for them now.

cheers mate

 

black wire goes to ignition live this is found either on the inner wing on nova or on bulk head if it a gsi/gte on the loom plug


green is tachometer
blue is temperature
thick red wire goes to ecu constant live take this from battery
on the XE loom u should have red/blue wire this is fuel pump live this need to either go ya ignition via a relay or if it's a gsi/gte nova is on the bulk head loom plug matching the same colour hope this helps all the brown wire are earths make sure u have the earth attached from the gearbox the to body (passenger side) and sometimes also from the back of the block to the battery

 

my nova was just an sr so i dont sam to have that plug.
ive just got a load of wires taped together.

ive put the startor motor signal wires together, the earths, lives, and switch lives.

just tried it and the engine turns over.

now im gonna do the fuel pump relay and other little bits and see if i can get it to start.

fingers crossed.

 

Cool, be out annoying scoobies soon then

 

or delivering a compressor on its maiden voyage seems a cool first "test" run imo

 

guessing u aint got that bolt off yet then.

having a few problems with my new exhaust.
i know i was going to have to mate the front up with the downpipe. but i cant get the bloody back box and centre section to line up right so the tail pipe comes out in the right place and straight.

 

see thats why i got a mongoose

ill pop over 1 time after work i ya collect me from the usual spot when i aont got a car and ill give ya a hand

also if it dont work we will use the mongoose tech on it

as for THAT fucking engine,,,,,,,,, ive just bought a proper propane big arse tourch gun, bought a BRAND NEW VALVE to bend, bought a peugeot fly wheel locking too as it looks like stu's one and a trade size tin of wd40


after that its grinder time

 

Haven't you got this done yet

 

hes a lazy fucker he is, what with working at the bank of england and helping his mates fix there cars and also living in his own place with his missus he seems to neglect the important things in life like getting his hobby up and running ASAP when like a nobend hes spending all his cash on bills and his spare time and money on going on the piss


cowboi you should be ashamed of your self

fix that nova so you can get rid of that 2 year old reliable car you own , dont let the people on the net down

oh and i bet ya cant guess his age too ( or his weight )

 

ginge, u crack me up!
the funny thing is i think he was talkin about the bolt on ur engine!

i think i have solved the problem with my exhaust!

i was told to buy a gte system as these have a bigger bore than the sr one.
so i did.
now i just checked and it turns out they do 3 nova systems:

gte, sr and gsi.

all are 2" bore and 3" tail pipe.

the gsi 1 will have a cat thats y that 1 is there.
so therefore the sr and gte systems must be different otheriwse they wouldnt bother selling 2 of them!

oh how i wish i had bought the sr 1. same bore, and would of fitted straight on!
bit of flexi pipe and a grinder will put it right as now ive sctrached it up cant send it back.

i got the car 2 turn over on the key now ginge, so once i sort the fuel lines out, i should be away.

other than that all i need to do is:

mount and wire the fuel pump up. and put all this little lot back on the car and away we go:

brake servo, master cyliner, expansion tank, rad, lights, fan, wassher bottle, battery, wiper motor and arm, finish the gear linkage, connect the front brake lines, give the callipers 1 last lick of paint and mate up the down pipe to the exhaust.

also i need to find a coil from a 2ltr engine as all i have is the nova one.

then its time for tax, mot and insurance and i'll be on the road.

 

and as u bought it up, and one that reads this have a guess at my age!

lets see if we cant prove ginge wrong

 

what bolt lol

if u need any bits like a coil then I have just about everything to build about 5 valver novas,

unlucky on the exhaust, I just went for a Ashley GTE system on my last one, fitted well but does sound a bit iffy tbh,

having a Matt Simpson Exhaust on my new lump, which although great costs about as much as it does to convert a nova into a valver !

mig is alright but dont expect a reply unless you have a million posts against you or ur name is chip

 

i know, its funny. u get a quicker reply on here about valver novas than on mig.

i guess youe nove was originally a gte then, otherwise u would of had the same problem with the exhaust.

where abouts do u live mate?

1 other question while ur here to ask, on the fuel pump from a gte nova there are 2 connections for spade terminals, 1 large and 1 slightly smaller.

what 1 is the pos and what 1 is neg?

tbh the conversion is actually quite easy.
it was daunting at first when i had both the 1.3 and the 2ltr engine sitting next to each other and a massive pile of bits including engine mounts and new driver shafts etc.
but once you work through it, it gets quite easy.
i would have no problems doing it again.
but would defo start with a gte next time. so much easier as fuel tank and lines etc are already there.

 

very informative

 

Yeh mig is alright but does get on my tits at times, I use the fact that I have the Escort in my sig as a excuse to use PF, sadly the car has been stored for far too long now so I'm stuck contstantly modding my nova lol

Anyway I live nr Cambridge, my car was a SR, I just cut and welded the flange on the manifold to suit the system which just means you can always change to different GTE sytems if u dont like what u have.

I've seen some shocking systems made up where the whole lot has been welded together which is just a crap way of doing it !

I'm running a Cossie pump on mine as I had it kicking about but from what I remember I think that the large terminal is the positive and the other just earths to the body.

Conversion is quite simple and its a pukka car to just keep moding, as long as its performance modding and not lexus lights and barry kits !

heres a few pics

engine shot after returning from the Ring (looking messy)



brakes from a familiar PF user





got loads of build pics etc..

will probably see you up the pod next year if ur into that sort of thing

 

JonnyBravo


What the brakes like bud as i was going to snap a set up. I know they are the conkers but was wondering if there to much

 

Can't fault them one bit, they done about 6k on teh pads they come supplied with then I changed to DS2500 and they are still lasting well, still on the original rotors too !

The braking is far better than any other setup I have used and there a damn site cheaper than a full AP setup but I think they are easily as good.

I'm gonna change to rear discs though with bias so I can really get the braking perfect.

They also have very little pedal travel which is something my old v6 setup gave loads of which was horrible.

 

Mine has the gte 16v brakes on at the mo and must say they feel really spongie and fucking horrible. I only paid Ł950 for the car so am a bit reluctant to spend Ł800 on brakes for it tbh but might be worth the expense as i am planning to do as many crack days as possible in it including the ring next year

 

is plumbing the xe in the nova easy?

im sure i'll be at pod next year with all my mates.
was u there for central day last year running on the strip?
if u was i think i spoke to u then.

i managed to get some red dot 16v brakes for 11 quid brand new from halfords.
a fook up on their computer which i took advantage of.

im hoping to get the exhaust and downpipe all done today and get the fueling sorted out.
if i had a coil i would start her up. but no such luck.

 

go on www.novaload.net

 

piping is easy mate, you can either use a T piece at teh return teh the header tank for the rad and inet manifold water pipes or just do what I do which is blank the inlet manifold where the pipe connects.

I can get a pic of what I done if u want.

if u need a coil then I have one .

novaload is alright it search button doesn't work so dont expect to get much help from there.

I did speak to a few people at Central Day, it was a good day, was teh first time I used the nitrous on this car and I was the fastest fwd car all day so was more than happy although some apparently said I was arrogant about it ! I didn't mean to be for those who thought that

Roll on this year, hopefully it will be completed in time, done soem work on it today, so much to do and the days are flying by !

 

i spoke to some one on central day, he had used a load of washer to hold engine engine rather than a modified mount.

i went on novaload and tried to register ages ago but it never worked propably so i left it.
i noticed the search button didnt work as well so it would take for ever to go through all the posts to find relevant stuff.

i think i will have to get a coil off u some time.

do u know the size of the pipe i need that goes from the tank to the pump?

its bigger than 8mm but not sure how big. if not i'll be at my car later so i'll hae a measure and buy some 2mora.

i should be at pod as much as i can next year as al my mates and me are planning to get out cars ready for early next year.

we are also gonna do a road trip up to knock hill at some point.

 

what would u say are the best value for money power mods to do to an xe?

i'd like to take it up to around the 175 mark if i dont cost to much.

can u reccomend any thing?

 

Don't be so fucking stupid! They wouldn't know how to wire up a plug

Only wiring that lot know is how to hotwire a car to nick it

Just get your main 3 wires sorted.

Switched live (black)
Thick red -blue trace fuel pump relay
Live (thick red)

Depending on which car the loom came from, could mean totally differn't wire locations. Off the top of my head, heres a pointer

GTE loom:

fuel relay is in the engine bay, or you can splice into the same wire at the loom plug, although i would advise against this as its dodgy to get the right one.

Switched live can be spliced in just where the engine loom comes out the right side of the engine, as can the live.

GSi (cav, calibra, Astra) looms:

Fuel relay is in the driver footwell under the ECU. Just do the wire crossover there.

Not sure where the switched live is on these looms. sorry

 

ive got the main wires sorted now.
the engine turns over on the key now.
i dunno if ive done all the signal cables right yet.
like oil temp, water temp etc.

i'd just be happy to start it at the moment.

u been up 2 much on ur car recently?

 

Headwork, cams, injectors (blues?), 3.0 bar FPR should see a healthy 170-175bhp, maybe more?. Ask chip, he knows a bit about tuning XE's & LET's

Would probably say what i will now, and thats to go carbs or TB's. TB's are the sensible choice as they are more reliable and won't need calibrating like carbs.

 

i was thinking about the sbd throttle body kit.

have u noticed many coming up second hand at all?

 

But does it start?

I'm not familiar with petrol nova wiring, only diesel. But if that's anything to go by, then the signal wires should be all the same colour

Blue - water temp
Green - tacho
Black with blue or green trace - oil pressure IIRC (think its blue, but not too sure) have a look at the pressure sender plug on the oil filter sandwich plate.

If you are asking about my car, its fucked lol The bottom end is totally rebuilt, and its sitting in the kitchen. Everytime iwalk past it i check bolts and seals just to be double sure nothing will fall off. I'm glad the sump is back on, else i'll be checking the internals all the time to give me peace of mind it wont chuck a rod Its a obsesive compulsive disorder lol

As for the shell, well, its taking long. But i don't care, cos i'm not rebuilding the lot till its warmer (spring?) Going down to see her in a minute as it goes, see how my union jack badge will look on it



P.s Yes i am a tart, but i like it and its going on

 

I don't see them often to tell the truth, people hang on to them. your best bet would be Migweb classifieds for them, they used to crop up every now and then after people blew their engines up cos they aint got a clue.

 

i just done a quick search, the 196 kit goes for around Ł1200.

might get one some time in the new year

 

Get yourself a decent set of cams and pullies whilst you're at it You thought about management? Cos the bosch ecu is wank

 

it wont start yet as i dont have the right coil or any fuel going to it yet.

i'll have to save for a while i think and then either swop the engine for a let, or get a few bits for it.

not much point in looking into it to much for now as im pretty skint.

 

I have a set of Group N cams for sale

I used them and a group N ecu with a bit of headwork to make 171bhp on my last xe nova,

There probably would be no advantage using blue injectors on your xe, they are really desinged for the later xe and maybe they would become handy on a tuned xe on TB's.

 

I was running blues with just headwork & a LET 3 bar FPR, she would dust out standard GTE's and GSi's, so had a slight advantage, whereas before it would just draw even and often lag back a bit at times.

I can't see why you would use cream injectors with a standard 2.5 bar fpr when you have headwork and cams? It makes sense to do 10 minutes work to fit a 3 bar FPR and blues. I mean, why not?

 

Fair point but from what I'm aware the creams still run 3 bar anyway so you wouldn't see any gain from using blues.

it would make more sense to fit as adjustable fpr on creams to adjust the fuelling when your on the rollers or something.

creams will flow enough for 215bhp so no need to change to blues

 

20XE cream injectors are 235cc/min@3bar,

20XE blues are 241cc/min@3bar