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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 05:21 PM
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Default FRST management and Anti-lag? (Jano?)

Anyone on here running Running anti lag on the FRST EFI engine management?

Whats involved in converting standard EFI management to use antilag?
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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whats involved?maybe not thinking a frst runs ke for a start you fool!
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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and lots of cash is also involved
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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and being able to drive around the nurburgring without crashing helps!
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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lol, as said Festa doesnt run KE
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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you also require a badgers body and some hardcore techno backbeats!!
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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Ok my mistake, ofab or ofac or whatever they run
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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you cant.. can you?
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a flocked dash that costs more than the car its goin into might help! along with a lovely ponytail!
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Madmac, in a word, no. You'd need OMEX or cossie managment with a pectel board from ALS, which is utterly pointless in a FWD road car
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Originally Posted by DaveEscos
you cant.. can you?




or maybe you can,depends if youre building a mental zetec cabriolet thatll never see the light of day or not!
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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fine, dont fucking bother then, jesus sometimes this forum fuckes me right off.


If I want anti lag in my car I am gonna put fucking anti lag on my car,

Does this post say "rip the piss because Stu wants to try something new?"

Does this post say "I want to know how much a crap idea Anti-lag is on a turboed XR2 is?"

NO

It's asking what do I do to FRST engine management or what do I need to run anti-lag.

If you aint gonna answer my fucking question then dont bother fucking replying. Jesus I dont get on everyone elses posts and rip the piss out of their ideas do I and I dont expect the same
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or maybe if you have a memorable walk along the beachfront with rad on your first date with the sunset at the southend seafront with your ponytail waving in the cool sea breeze
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Originally Posted by MadMac
fine, dont fucking bother then, jesus sometimes this forum fuckes me right off.


If I want anti lag in my car I am gonna put fucking anti lag on my car,

Does this post say "rip the piss because Stu wants to try something new?"

Does this post say "I want to know how much a crap idea Anti-lag is on a turboed XR2 is?"

NO

It's asking what do I do to FRST engine management or what do I need to run anti-lag.

If you aint gonna answer my fucking question then dont bother fucking replying. Jesus I dont get on everyone elses posts and rip the piss out of their ideas do I and I dont expect the same

Stay calm m8. Honestly, you'll need to change ECUs, to something with that can be mapped for ALS. OMEX 700 series is the daddy IMHO. Or Jano could sort you a cossie managment conversion for about the same price with a pectel board for ALS. I think the going rate for either option is about 2 grand. As far as I know the Ford EFI is pretty rubbish. I have OFAC, which can't be fiddled with IIRC.


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ALS is pointless
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sorry fella,just ask m sport to knock you one up in between sorting the wrc cars,sure theyll fit you in!
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Originally Posted by Rab
ALS is pointless
You mean like using an XR2 as a track car.

Oh no there is a good reason I use it because if I stack it its never gonna cost me more than Ł400 repair and the only things that are ever gonna cost the money is the engine, suspension and brakes which I can put in another car anyway
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maybee yoou can make anti lag out of carbon fibre!
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OR get a p8, anti lag ISCV, cossie management setup,get it mapped,pay 2 odd grand etc..... there you go!














































































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RAD says hi!
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Originally Posted by MadMac
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ALS is pointless
You mean like using an XR2 as a track car.

Oh no there is a good reason I use it because if I stack it its never gonna cost me more than Ł400 repair and the only things that are ever gonna cost the money is the engine, suspension and brakes which I can put in another car anyway

No no, I agree that XR2 track cars rule. I'm just saying that ALS just results in more wheelspin. If you see what I'm saying?

If you think of the cost of it, would something like decent suspension/brakes and a proper set up not be money better spent. For the track?
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maram shafted turbo may also be of some use,BUT.................why not use a smaller turbo?its a light car! or twin charge the fucker! super charge AND turbo charge!
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then take radleigh to the seafront!
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he says he'll show you his piercing!
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Originally Posted by DaveEscos
maybee yoou can make anti lag out of carbon fibre!

Stu- what do you want to know about converting your xr2 to run efi??- give me a shout, as you know that i did mine, piece of p chap!
And, no AFAIK its not at all poss to run ALS on EECiv managment!
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Where do you boys get so much crap from

All these questions and answers are available by clicking on the sig.
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FPMSL@this thread

Rab tho, your wrong, ALS will solve most turbo cars on/off power delivery, making it feel like a large capacity n/a engine, and being able to use part throttle to give decent power and able to modulate the throttle to control wheelspin like a N/A car.

So to sum up, unless your a spacco and dont understand there are lots of throttle positions besides off and full, ALS could help you control wheelspin.

Not like any of this matters tho, cause it aint happenin
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Not like any of this matters tho, cause it aint happenin
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Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
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Rab tho, your wrong, ALS will solve most turbo cars on/off power delivery, making it feel like a large capacity n/a engine, and being able to use part throttle to give decent power and able to modulate the throttle to control wheelspin like a N/A car.

So to sum up, unless your a spacco and dont understand there are lots of throttle positions besides off and full, ALS could help you control wheelspin.

Not like any of this matters tho, cause it aint happenin

I stand corrected then. My only experience is with my m8's GEMS equipped Scooby. I deduced (big word eh?) that a fwd car that doesn't grip already, would just give up with ALS.
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It can happen tho a pal is working on a stand alone system that will be able to retard the timming BTC not just for ALS! This will be able to run on any system with the Edis unit.

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Big wig...Has mac done somthing too piss you off? or are you always a nob? fuk sake give the guy a break
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im always a knob (note spelling!). but there's nothing wrong with a bit of humour on a website,i think youll also see ive put a bit of help in there too!
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Fair play mate, it's just Stu seems to have had more than his fair share of shit just latley...

Also I know how to Spell Knob and I can use punctuation aswell!!
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interesting Jano!
any idea on development time???
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Originally Posted by GTechR
Fair play mate, it's just "that" Stu"art" seems to have had more than his fair share of shit just latley...

Also"," I know how to Spell Knob and I can use punctuation aswell!!

Oh really! Do you?
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Havent got any time for the retail side of things but development ECU's will be made and used on certain cars. Not just Ford's either. To be able to test and see how well the stand alone system will work.

In short it will be an extra monitor that will be able to work with the std factory ECU even if it is not Turbo'd and be able to supply extra amount of fuel, nos etc via X amount of injetcors in the port. This will be measured via a Lambda sensor + other sensors

A full wideband control system will follow i.e no more mapping or the need for mappers
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so the same as the old gatekeeper then?
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Originally Posted by big_wig_074
Originally Posted by GTechR
Fair play mate, it's just "that" Stu"art" seems to have had more than his fair share of shit just latley...

Also"," I know how to Spell Knob and I can use punctuation aswell!!

Oh really! Do you?
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Originally Posted by big(arsehole)_wig_074
"im" always a knob (note spelling!). but there's nothing wrong with a bit of humour on a "website,i" think "youll" also see "ive" put a bit of help in there too!


As much as you it would appear.
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A full wideband control system will follow i.e no more mapping or the need for mappers
that's gonna be one clever system then
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i never claimed i could! you did though!
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Yup as I said, first Class
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my mate runs als on his frst

























but he is running omex
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