What would you get and why??

Reasons for and against.

 

ST....Just because I like them

 

RS

Has turbo power, better seats, better brakes, wheels

And it carries the RS badge

 

neither

 

Freddy_mercury_magic, The ST has turbo power mate and 5 cylinders. More scope for p.o.w.e.r MWAHHAHAHAHA

Katie, Well thats good enought for me

Benn 304R, Only cos you can't get in either

 

Focus RS,as soon as i sell the Boxster.
For: its' an RS,so will hold it's value way better than an ST IMO(even the new one),as said above,turbo'd,better brakes,suspension etc. Was made in limited numbers so will only become rarer the more that get written off etc.

Look at current values of RS's vs. XR's or ST's of a similar age. See my point?

 

Nope, cause there both fwd

 

Ooops, i see what i've done......

NEW Focus ST

 

Does it

got any pictures as im thinking of another car

 

Least you wouldn't have to try unlocking every door at fordfair if you had the ST rudey....lol

 

Tango ones are a limted colour so be quick if you want one

 

It's the fast Ford the UK's performance car fans have been waiting for - and it's finally hit the road. But can the new Focus ST really live up to all the hype? To find out, Auto Express was on hand as the spiritual successor to the XR3 hit the test track. We also matched the car up with VW's sensational Golf GTI - the machine likely to present the Ford with its biggest challenge.

Our exclusive pictures reveal that away from the motor show crowds, the ST's muscular lines come alive in the summer sun. Designers have done a great job in evolving the latest Focus's conservative shape into a striking hot hatch. Inside, the makeover is just as dramatic. The colour of the bodywork is carried over to the seats, while chrome trim adds visual impact to the well built cabin. On top of the dash, three extra gauges hint at what's under the bonnet.

As with the outgoing Focus RS, the ST employs a turbocharger to maximise performance. However, it takes power from a five-cylinder Volvo engine. This is the first five-cylinder unit ever used by Ford, and it "gives the Focus a unique character", according to one insider.

While the newcomer's 217bhp output is bettered by the 237bhp Vauxhall Astra VXR, Ford has engineered its front-wheel-drive Focus to deliver gutsy low-down torque. Early indications are that the ST - short for Sport Technologies - drives like no other Ford ever produced before. The distinctive engine noise is complemented by a chassis set-up which aims to provides plenty of grip, combined with entertaining handling.

So impressive is the performance that, during development testing, the ST is claimed to have shaved a massive 12 seconds off the best lap time set by an old-shape Focus RS around the Nürburgring in Germany. By the time production models hit the UK, suspension settings will have been further tuned to our roads to give a supple ride as well.

We'll give you our definitive verdict when the ST is launched later this year, before it goes on sale in early 2006. With the Astra VXR due at the same time, all eyes will be on the hot hatch market to see if the Golf GTI loses its crown.
Chris Thorp


Article from: Auto Express

 

* Rudey *, Either colour mate - dont think my mates fussed.

 

Not to sure tbh

 

New Focus ST

Although saying that my mate Stockdale had a Focus RS last year, fitted a de-cat, K&N and a bluefin and it flew, had it on 3 wheels going across the roundabout outside the Central Library B/Heath

 

lol, they are just too much the same
'nice car mate'
'no thats not my car, my cars 4 down, over there, next to the other 30 rs's' It'd get confusing...lol

Nice to have something different, the orange is strangely appealing to me actually

 

RS

i'm not struck on the look of the new focus.

 

Ahhh but there will be lots more ST's on the road than the RS.....you'll just get a choice in colour

so your car would be the 4th orange one down out of the other 300

 

GOT TO BE THE RS FOR SURE, ST AGAIN WILL BE MASS PRODUCED, THEREFORE PLUMITING PRICES...RS ARE A LIMITED RUN, AND NOW FORD HAVE ANNOUNCED THEY ARE NOT PRODUCING ANY MORE, PRICES WILL HOLD.. WHICH IS GOOD NEWS AS IVE GOT AN 04 PLATE WITH 8,967 MILES. BUILD No 4418 of 4500.. RS KICKS aRSe..

 

ST, cause the potential for big power is there.....much better build quality and better interior, and being a run of the mill model i wouldnt care about modding it or spoiling it for the 'purists'........

And whoever said the FRS seats were better wants their head examined....the mock sparcos that fall apart and u cant actually use a harness with......roflol

 

If i had to have one it would be the ST, the RS is crap as standard. But to be honest id save my money, ford havent made anything that interests me since '91, well maybe except the racing puma.

 

Test drive time me thinks...........

Does anyone know when the ST is hitting the showrooms?

 

Why cant harnesses be used?

ST has Recaro's tho

 

I wouldn't change my RS for the ST, purely as it's an RS, is better looking, not too keen on the new Focus.

My seat's haven't fallen apart and I've seen FRS's with harnesses.

 

Love the interior of the new ST. Still not too sure about the exterior

Conversely I love the exterior of the old Focus but hate the interior!

Is it jsut me or is anyone on here wishing that the new cars had LESS power? The faster the new cars on the more we have to mod the old ones to get the huge performance advantage that we had in the 90's over (then) current hot hatches etc.

 

Less improvement than you would think tho due to impact protection adding masses of weight. BHP/ton is what matters.

 

I's have the new ST because its better inside, outside, performance but if Ford said they were gonna bring out a WRC with 4 wheel drive i'd soon change my mind

 

For exclusivity, I'd go for an RS over an ST....

With the ST being a 5cyl, does it have something like the old skool warble that an Audi 20v Quattro had??


Cheers,
Grant

 

hope the suspension is sorted on the ST cos im not overally impressed with the suspension on my new focus. seems a tad unpredictable on country lanes.

mint on dual carriage way type roads but not impressed on bumpies.


the focus RS looks alot harder IMO but I do like the new focus! (lol im not biased though)

 

I would have the RS over the new ST.

The FRS just looks the part, the styling is agressive and wider than a normal Focus and even the new ST.

The new ST just hasnt got the road presence that the RS has.

The dash in the FRS is a little bland but theres a few bits you can do to bring it upto spec. The dash in the the new ST is sooooo boring IMO, the only good bit is the 3 gauge pod.

For my money i would buy the Focus RS

 

How can anyone say what they want, no ones driven the ST yet

 

JUST ON LOOKS ALONE THE RS KICKS ARSE ...AND WITH A LIMITED RUN OF 4501, GOT TO HOLD PRICE....MAIN REASON THO IS THAT " ITS AN RS " LAST OF THE LEGACY WOT MORE CAN I SAY ST STANDS 4 S**T...

 

NO SERIOUS, ST ARE A GOOD PACAGE CAR, BUT NOT AN RS............

 

RS everytime the FRS has enough corners cut to make its 20k price tag the ST is gonna be less and have more gimme a break Ford will never get it right bet it hasnt the brakes of the trick diff either it will be a understeering Vauxhall lookalike with a good engine

The masses will love it the hardcore wont

 

Will be around October

 

neither I would buy an ecossie for the money, why? Cus they are both front wheel drive

 

ST will be mucho more tunable than the RS
And the Recaro's are deffo better than the shite Sparco seats from the RS

 

Ok it maybe more tuneable (but ur all forgetting the zetec had made big numbers).... and its not an RS looks shite ok the FRS fake sparcos were a bad move by Ford They were actually made by johnson controls who design Fords seats

PS MadMac have you been in one The grip is amazing even my mate with a Esc cos with Konis, brace etc was impressed when we had a special demo ride in one ps an Esc Cos you cant use like the FRS I can use my FRS to go shopping on holiday etc you could never do that with a Esc Cos