Brakes for 700+ bhp
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Yes mate wouldn't be 4 pots will be as big as possible to go behind the 19's will speak to Martin Hadland closer to the time
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4 or 6 pots doesnt matter that much, thats more about pedal feel. Id go as big in the diameter and thickness of the discs as possible. For the rear I would get something to have a good brake balance, as it is easy to go to big on the rear.
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Ive got latest spec BTCC calipers and rotors. Not really that much more than an off the shelf AP set up. Bonus being BTCC teams will sell you the rotors and conditioned pads cheap. They rarely use rotors more than one meeting.
Ive bought 3 spare sets of rotors and pads for less than 1 new rotor from AP
Ive bought 3 spare sets of rotors and pads for less than 1 new rotor from AP
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But you should really keep the surface area of the pistons close to what they are now. It is matched to the master cylinder and using a different surface area will change the pedal travel and the pedal feel. The same goes for the rear. In my opinion you shouldnt put the AP 4 pots, as are sold as a bolt on kit, on the rear as the pistons are too big and overbrakes the rear.
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Just a mate who's a team manager. I can ask the question if you want anything. There's a guy on eBay who sells the tyres from teams. Can't remember his name, he shifts stuff but tops you up on price
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Cheers for the explanation mark I will be using tilton pedal box and res set up, wouldn't use 4 pots rear mate
jon been looking at those calipers on eBay thiers been a pair on thier a while about 750 each look pukka
jon been looking at those calipers on eBay thiers been a pair on thier a while about 750 each look pukka
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Lscman said:03-03-2004 10:13 AM I don't think anyone has properly addressed the street vs track issues here: Dust boots serve absolutely no purpose until the piston is pushed back into it's bore during pad replacement. As pads wear, fresh piston is exposed and the dirty, exposed portion of the piston does not affect the caliper seal or fluid. A race caliper gets freshened up and possibly rebuilt several times each season. It does not see weathering or high corrosion under race use, so the dust is easily wiped or scraped off as the piston(s) are returned to their bore when installing fresh pads. On the street, the highly corrosive dust that has accumulated and aged on the piston has turned into a solid, rusty crust coating after seeing humidity and rain for months or years. Trying to return the scaly piston into it's bore can result in sealing o-ring leaks. Maintenance intervals and pad wear rates on street setups is usually very different. This is why street setups use dust boots. Dust boots make changing or removing pistons more difficult. Dust boots smolder and/or ignite into useless blobs of rubber at elevated track use temps (over 750 degrees F). Conclusion: If you use race calipers with no dust boots on the street, you'd better remove and thoroughly clean the pistons with a toothbrush before pushing them back in their bores. Race calipers are not designed to have their pistons sticking out of the bores for two years between pad changes & corrosion from being exposed for extended interval & driven thru all weather. The corrosion and crust buildup that forms on the exposed pistons from street use WILL be a problem....unless you're street racing and going thru pads every month. In this case, the frequent wiping will keep the pistons fairly clean. Rebuilding a wilwood caliper typically involves popping the pistons out with compressed air & dropping a $3 viton seal into the groove. This should be done once a year or so. A good mechanic can do this whole job in about 15 minutes, so it should be done every couple times you change pads. The pistons should not need changed more than once every 10 years or so
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Scott do you think this will be a daily driver or even used in bad weather? I'm not worried about them being on the road. It's only an hour to drop the wheels off and give a good clean.
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I've had CP5200 4 pots on my car for over 10 years, no dust boots.
Car doesnt get used regularly, which in some respects can be worse, but I've had zero issues with them or corrosion etc. Although they've only ever seen one bad salty winter.
As for brakes....really depends on usage you intend.
Car doesnt get used regularly, which in some respects can be worse, but I've had zero issues with them or corrosion etc. Although they've only ever seen one bad salty winter.
As for brakes....really depends on usage you intend.
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I've had CP5200 4 pots on my car for over 10 years, no dust boots.
Car doesnt get used regularly, which in some respects can be worse, but I've had zero issues with them or corrosion etc. Although they've only ever seen one bad salty winter.
As for brakes....really depends on usage you intend.
Car doesnt get used regularly, which in some respects can be worse, but I've had zero issues with them or corrosion etc. Although they've only ever seen one bad salty winter.
As for brakes....really depends on usage you intend.
what its doesn't have is the type of rubber boot seal fitted to oe calipers
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I've had CP5200 4 pots on my car for over 10 years, no dust boots.
Car doesnt get used regularly, which in some respects can be worse, but I've had zero issues with them or corrosion etc. Although they've only ever seen one bad salty winter.
As for brakes....really depends on usage you intend.
Car doesnt get used regularly, which in some respects can be worse, but I've had zero issues with them or corrosion etc. Although they've only ever seen one bad salty winter.
As for brakes....really depends on usage you intend.
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I regularly re seal these calipers on my race car Ive got 3 sets of these calipers all are the same seal arrangement
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