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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 06:49 PM
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I've got my engine and its 100% a 1.6 zetec silvertop from a 98 escort. How easy to drop in? Can I keep sump n water pump etc? Just drop in mod a mount and exhaust and use Rst LSD box do some wiring and that's it?
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 07:46 PM
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Pretty easy job then?
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 07:47 PM
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Also has anybody got any wiring diagrams for zetec loom? Ill wire via yellow relays like the rs bible but obv the zetec ain't on there
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 07:58 PM
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You will need an ecu, engine loom, efi flywheel, mod your rad hoses to fit, rs turbo clutch and I think the alternator may run the wrong way
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 08:12 PM
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I thought ya only needed flywheel if it was 1.8 or 2.0, I have ecu n engine loom and I know about hoses cheers. N I can sort alt no problem if its wrong way but I'd of thought as long as the alt is spinning ill get a charge?
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 08:14 PM
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I also should be able use the clutch I got with engine, the box is rear starter which would bolt in my mk3 but not mk4 I've looked at that lol
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No you need an efi flywheel as you need a timing pickup, you need it whatever zetec you use, also the bolt holes need drilling out as zetec bolts are slightly bigger, you need the rst clutch as you need to use the cvh flywheel and box, you could use a zetec box im sure but you will need to fab mounts and maybe driveshafts
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So if your going to all that trouble you may as well use a 2.0 or 1.8 130 engine as the 1.6 is not the quickest
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 08:26 PM
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True, my 1.6 is a whopping.......


....wait for it......


....90 horses!
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 08:27 PM
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The engine is efi mate? And I ain't doing it for quickness, just want a nice little zetec that's a bit better than the ovh 1.3 carb engine, I only paid Ł60 for engine box ecu loom n keys. But I'm 99% I can just use 1.6 clutch fly wheel n Rst box
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True, my 1.6 is a whopping.......


....wait for it......


....90 horses!
Haha it's not for speed mate, my mk3 is 1.6 and at the mo it's pushing 206 bhp n got most bits to get more, this is just gonna be something a bit nicer to drive lol
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yes so you need a timing pickup for the ecu which is on the flywheel, which you have to change to the cvh efi one as you have to use the cvh box, the zetec flywheel is much meatier unit so the clutches are not interchangeable
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 08:35 PM
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Ok mate, can ya use the xr3i or 2i one? Or could I use the 1.8 diesel box from the escort van n keep the fly n clutch?
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Yeah either one as long as its a efi 3i one, you can use most cvh clutches but as escort rs turbo ones are largest they will be better and last longer and not much difference in price, im not sure on a diesel clutch but you can use the mk4 diesel box, 3i box, you can even use a ka1.3 box which is actually stronger and has a rear starter
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Don't be drawn in on the myth of diesel boxes being stronger as they are not
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It's just that my mate said I can have his diesel box 50 quid, and if it would bolt straight onto the engine n clutch I'd do that.
It's never going to be powerful so that won't matter.
Also when I dropped an rs2000 mk5 engine in one of my escorts I used a zetec 1.6 flywheel for pickup and an Rst box and that was fine mate. I'm getting confused why this wouldn't be the same mate lol
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 08:51 PM
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Because a rs2k engine ain't a zetec lol, the box would bolt on just make sure you check its off a mk4 so your cradle bolts up, can't see how a zetec flywheel and clutch would work on a cvh box tho tbh
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Tbh mate thinking back I may have got the zetec fly n actually not used it, it was a few years back lol. I think I might of used cvh fly, can't remember haha. I'm just gonna get the 1.8 diesel box from a 96 escort van I think. Will be easier lol
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You need rst flywheel for pickup?

The zetec has its own pickup and flywheel?

Or am I missing something?
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Originally Posted by turbocabessex
yes so you need a timing pickup for the ecu which is on the flywheel, which you have to change to the cvh efi one as you have to use the cvh box, the zetec flywheel is much meatier unit so the clutches are not interchangeable
You can use the 1.6 or 1.8 flywheel and clutch. Done it before
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 09:22 PM
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From a zetec Luke?
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 09:25 PM
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Yes it was a 1.8 focus engine but I also had a focus 1.6 flywheel which was the same. Don't remember the clutch bring different to the one from my turbo. Did check.
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 09:28 PM
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I thought the s2 Rst clutches and the 1.6 zetec clutches were both 220mm? This is where I'm getting lost now lol and thought the 1.8 n 2.0 flywheels were bigger?
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No it's the 2.0 which is a mtx
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Yes sorry the rs2k used the bigger fly too . So at the end of all this I can use the 1.6 zetec fly n clutch and my Rst box?
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I used a ib5 from a later diesel van. But I'm sure it will fit

Don't think a rs2000 is the same size as a mtx because I have rs2000 box on mine and it needs a little grinding for the mtx flywheel/clutch
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Ok that's it then, ill use the diesel box from a 96 van. I'm using one now on my Rst its lasted well over a year and had some stick do a 90bhp 1.6 engine will be fine
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Engine and box is all sorted . All standard cvh mounts are bolted on engine n box. I ended up keeping the 1.6 zetec gearbox which meant no probs with clutches or fly wheels . It's a rear starter but that's not a problem. The cvh engine mount bolts straight onto top bolts just need the mount hole at bottom moving over now. just two little bits to weld on mounts and a shorter belt putting on as removed power steering pump.
Ill try n get some pics up
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Get rid and stick a 1.8/2.0 in. 1.6 Zetec E's are the biggest pile of shite Ford ever made.
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The plan was to get a 1.8 and I went and bought it but when I got home after a 2 hour drive it turned out it was a 1.6. I just want something a bit better than the 1.3 4 speed carb engine I have now lol.
If it turns out I want something more beasty ill drop one in in the future at least all mounts n pipes etc will be right by then lol
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There are some pics, n the bits I need get welded. Only query I have is oil filter? Looks like it could foul on brake bias valves?? Anybody know about this?
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Originally Posted by wedge07
There are some pics, n the bits I need get welded. Only query I have is oil filter? Looks like it could foul on brake bias valves?? Anybody know about this?
fit a cvh filter?
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My mate said there smaller so ill give it a try cheers bud.
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Right sorry bud I have mid informed you, you can use the 1.6 flywheel but they weigh nearly twice the amount of the cvh one, which would help your little 1.6 zetec rev much more freely
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Rev more freely with the zetec flywheel mate?
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