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Basically I have had some issues trying to paint a spoiler for a friend, im not new to painting ive done a few cars, paint repairs etc but im just not sure whats going on with this spoiler.
It came in a ready to paint primer, so I used 320 da pad discs and went over it by hand, then I panel wiped it and went over with a euro 1k grey primer, let that go off then I guide coated it and wet rubbed it with 800 wet + dry, after this I used ici base coat colour mixed with multi purpose thinners, let that dull off then used a euro 1k lacquer over the top. But as soon it started to go off it sank in places and also when I put it outside to dry off in the warm it started to micro blister in places which has never happened to me before,
This is the worst corner,

Then this is what I found when I removed all my paint and sanded it down further through the primer it came in, its like loads of holes?





It came in a ready to paint primer, so I used 320 da pad discs and went over it by hand, then I panel wiped it and went over with a euro 1k grey primer, let that go off then I guide coated it and wet rubbed it with 800 wet + dry, after this I used ici base coat colour mixed with multi purpose thinners, let that dull off then used a euro 1k lacquer over the top. But as soon it started to go off it sank in places and also when I put it outside to dry off in the warm it started to micro blister in places which has never happened to me before,
This is the worst corner,

Then this is what I found when I removed all my paint and sanded it down further through the primer it came in, its like loads of holes?





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No mate, its not a silicone reaction as that fish eyes the paint, all compressor and lines are clean and it also has a moisture separator fitted
Had something similar on a bike panel I was painting, what ever I did it would react and also couldn't work out what was reacting with what. I flatted it back and then used an isolator then carried on. It worked and got the job done but never did work out why it reacted in the first place.
Just out of interest, your first shot shows the clear over base but the other show something lighter. Are these your primer stages showing the same reaction all throughout the pain job?
Just out of interest, your first shot shows the clear over base but the other show something lighter. Are these your primer stages showing the same reaction all throughout the pain job?
Only option I would take in that situation is to completely remove all paint and start again with a plastic primer, high build primer then base and clear. I would assume what's happened is that the existing primer, your high build and base and clear are just not compatible with each other.
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If it was me I would bake the spoiler off before applying any paints to it, as it could be the mould of the spoiler is not fully cured then add a barrier coat, something like bar coat then flat this off. Then on with the base and clear coat.
I know you didn't bake it last time and I wouldn't bake it after you have finished painting it just let it air dry.
Oh I am a painter of 17years experience, and have had this sort of thing happen to me before on an aftermarket spoiler as well.
I know you didn't bake it last time and I wouldn't bake it after you have finished painting it just let it air dry.
Oh I am a painter of 17years experience, and have had this sort of thing happen to me before on an aftermarket spoiler as well.
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Thanks for your replies, I havnt got the facilities to bake the spoiler beforehand so all I can really do is see if my paint suppliers do the bar coat, is this stuff straight out of the gun ? No mixing with anything ?
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Cheers, at least with using 2k high build it goes off concrete and doesn't allow anything back through. I should if just used it in the first place it was the paint store that said to use the 1k high build as no mixing etc, should of just stuck to what I know.
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