Ford Sierra/Sapphire/RS500 Cosworth This forum is for discussion of all things pertaining to the Ford Sierra Cosworth.

ARP stud and nut kit

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 12, 2011 | 05:52 PM
  #1  
royRS's Avatar
royRS
Thread Starter
Wahay!! I've lost my Virginity!!
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Default ARP stud and nut kit

i'm gonna put my new engine back together but i've got a head that's too much skimmed already and because of that i need to use a multilayered headgasket (have to figure out compression ratio for thickness)
i want to use this with a arp stud and nut kit on my 200 block now have i heard from some people don't do this because block will crack and other people say that nothing's wrong with a stud and nut kit
what is th best to do use 1 or use standard bolts with a multilayered headgasket?
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2011 | 07:08 PM
  #2  
v man's Avatar
v man
Zee Germans are coming
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,585
Likes: 2
From: dunstable beds
Default

if you go for a multilayer then you will need to make sure the block is 100% flat also

what sort of power you after

the small turbo escort cosworth head gasket is the best to go for other than multi

standard head bolts are more than fine for big power
i would just use arp bottom end kit
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2011 | 07:57 PM
  #3  
Cilly-jey's Avatar
Cilly-jey
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 760
Likes: 0
From: North west
Default

i have just got a arp kit for mine, was advised away from standard bolts as mine are lifting the head under load! streching i think
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2011 | 08:10 PM
  #4  
v man's Avatar
v man
Zee Germans are coming
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,585
Likes: 2
From: dunstable beds
Default

Originally Posted by Cilly-jey
i have just got a arp kit for mine, was advised away from standard bolts as mine are lifting the head under load! streching i think
if my memory serves me correct carl norris of nms uses standard head bolts on his monster 3dr with no issues

i had them on my old 400 and a bit bhp 2wd saff with no issues
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2011 | 08:11 PM
  #5  
v man's Avatar
v man
Zee Germans are coming
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,585
Likes: 2
From: dunstable beds
Default

Originally Posted by Cilly-jey
i have just got a arp kit for mine, was advised away from standard bolts as mine are lifting the head under load! streching i think
plus standard bolts are non stretch anyway
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2011 | 09:34 PM
  #6  
Paul_RS's Avatar
Paul_RS
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 7,886
Likes: 35
From: Bangor, Northern Ireland
Default

Standard bolts are stretch bolts mate

Originally Posted by v man
if my memory serves me correct carl norris of nms uses standard head bolts on his monster 3dr with no issues

i had them on my old 400 and a bit bhp 2wd saff with no issues
Thats correct, he uses them up to a fairly high bhp!
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2011 | 06:37 AM
  #7  
Moonstone Steve.'s Avatar
Moonstone Steve.
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 6,540
Likes: 11
From: Kent
Default

If the head has been skimmed to much you could be getting into all sorts of problems m8

Steve
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2011 | 06:54 AM
  #8  
graham c's Avatar
graham c
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 4,254
Likes: 3
From: preston
Default

carl dose use standed bolts on lot of his stuff i neally whent that root but going long studs as will be 450-500 horse with gas
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2011 | 07:17 AM
  #9  
siscossie's Avatar
siscossie
3-door moonstone
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,711
Likes: 26
From: leeds
Default

I used arp when i rebuilt mine running 355bhp with no problem, as said above make sure both surfaces are perfectly flat.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2011 | 07:49 AM
  #10  
royRS's Avatar
royRS
Thread Starter
Wahay!! I've lost my Virginity!!
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
If the head has been skimmed to much you could be getting into all sorts of problems m8

Steve
wich problems then??? if the compression ratio is back to standard there are no problems
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2011 | 07:50 AM
  #11  
royRS's Avatar
royRS
Thread Starter
Wahay!! I've lost my Virginity!!
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by siscossie
I used arp when i rebuilt mine running 355bhp with no problem, as said above make sure both surfaces are perfectly flat.
do you drive it for a long time already with stud and nut kit also with an cometic mulilayerded headgasket?
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2011 | 07:53 AM
  #12  
royRS's Avatar
royRS
Thread Starter
Wahay!! I've lost my Virginity!!
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Default

do you drive it for a long time already with stud and nutkit?
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2011 | 08:41 AM
  #13  
siscossie's Avatar
siscossie
3-door moonstone
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,711
Likes: 26
From: leeds
Default

The engine has done 4000miles now with no problems, took it to noble motorsport they put it on the rollers and gave it a once over.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2011 | 04:59 PM
  #14  
v man's Avatar
v man
Zee Germans are coming
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,585
Likes: 2
From: dunstable beds
Default

Originally Posted by Paul_RS
Standard bolts are stretch bolts mate



Thats correct, he uses them up to a fairly high bhp!
oh shit didnt think they were
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2011 | 05:05 PM
  #15  
Rsmat's Avatar
Rsmat
Professional Waffler
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 27,262
Likes: 585
From: either at work or on way :)
Default

Arp stud and nut... And a yb611 headgasket... No probs what so ever on mine...

Reply
Old Sep 13, 2011 | 05:14 PM
  #16  
graham c's Avatar
graham c
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 4,254
Likes: 3
From: preston
Default

you wont have with wot your running tho matt think its up 400 + people have had probs. i ran standerd bolts at 400 horse fine
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2011 | 05:42 PM
  #17  
royRS's Avatar
royRS
Thread Starter
Wahay!! I've lost my Virginity!!
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Default

going for standard bolts thanks
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2011 | 08:33 PM
  #18  
Moonstone Steve.'s Avatar
Moonstone Steve.
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 6,540
Likes: 11
From: Kent
Default

Originally Posted by royRS
wich problems then??? if the compression ratio is back to standard there are no problems
Valve seats can and have been known to fall out due to a lack of material around that area.

Steve
Reply
Old Sep 14, 2011 | 08:09 AM
  #19  
royRS's Avatar
royRS
Thread Starter
Wahay!! I've lost my Virginity!!
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Default

material enough on that area so much is it not skimmed
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2011 | 01:53 PM
  #20  
EscortMatt's Avatar
EscortMatt
Wahay!! I've lost my Virginity!!
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 96
Likes: 1
From: West Sussex
Default

I rebuilt my engine with standard head bolts and my 205 block cracked, got hold of another 205 block and used ARP stud and nut kit and was all good after that, I would have thought using studs and nuts its better as you are spreading the load more evenly as you torque the head down...
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
arkeye
Ford Focus ST
1
Feb 20, 2016 01:22 PM
little bram
General Car Related Discussion.
2
Sep 27, 2015 07:45 AM




All times are GMT. The time now is 05:04 PM.