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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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Hi all,

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The avo coil overs i have fitted are a bit harsh, was wondering if any one could recommend a good spring rate for fast road usage....

Also the rear has adjustable shocks but standard type springs, the car is too low, is there a good -20mm or something spring out there somewhere?

Lastly, i made a post a while ago regards to getting the coilovers rebuilt, do GAZ do this now and has any one had this done?

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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 10:30 AM
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Come on guys, some one must have put softer springs on coil overs at some point
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 02:13 PM
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i had my avo's done by avo about 6 months ago and the rear springs i run are from rally design and are 350lbs on a 20mm drop and lokks and feels ok, the front springs i got second hand but are not harsh seems very similar to standard rate
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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I run 350/450 for mine which is a track car so way too harsh for you....but i'd go for perhaps 180 pound springs for fast road use, iirc the guy from gaz told me that's what they come with as standard. If you phone gaz and speak to David Lyons he was pretty helpful reagrding spring rates when i bought my coilovers and seemed to know what was what. I also bought a set off 225's for the rear but haven't used them yet so can't comment, but he did say the springs i asked for would be very harsh on the road (which they are really lol). Ideally you'd get coilovers for the rear too so you could spec the spring rates on the back too and give it the best chance of being a nice road car. I ran cobra -30mm sorings before and they were really nice on the road, whatever you get for the back try and find out what poundage they are so you can spec the fronts accordingly. Bit of a ramble i know but hopefully some of it may help
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 06:32 PM
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Cool cheers, any ideas on what i will pay for two front springs dave?

and project what did you pay for you avo coilovers to be rebuilt?

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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 07:46 PM
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Was a while back but i think the 2 spare rear springs i've got were no more than 40 quid, less i think! As long as you know the length and spring diameter you don't have to buy them from Avo neccesarily.
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think it worked out 45 a corner and if you look up rally design you can order your fronts and backs to your spec as they do 300/350/380 lb spring rate in std/-1/-2 inch ride height as i said i'm on 350lb at -1 inch but you could have 380 -1 if you wanted to make car a bit firmer it's a bit of trial and error they are £16.90 a spring, front coil springs are around £15 a piece and you want around 180/200 as a starting point for a road car and see how you like that shame your not closer as you could take mine out and see how it feels which is supprisingly good and only just over standard feel saying that it'll be t central day if your still not sorted by then your free to go out in it for a trial
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 07:59 PM
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Cheers mate, hoping to get it done for then! would like to see your car anyway mate sounds like a really nice car.

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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 08:17 PM
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well if your going central day you'll see it probably breaking it's box if i haven't got the 6 speeder in by then and feel free to say hello
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you'll see it probably breaking it's box


Cool mate, im sure i will bump into you and many other queuing for the strip, was havoc last year

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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 09:25 AM
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it is but normally quietens down about 2/3 then you can get a good few runs in and test stuff
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Originally Posted by project rs
it is but normally quietens down about 2/3
AM or PM lol
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by NUTS RuS
AM or PM lol
both last year we had a young lad had a little too much to drink and was putting the world and his step dad to rights while kicking his car and caravan till early hours and every now and then we'd throw a comment in to keep him going,
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I would have though 350/380 LB springs will be well to harsh. I've got 270 ish LB fronts and 180 LB rears IIRC as advised by Tony - NUTS RuS
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Originally Posted by project rs
both last year we had a young lad had a little too much to drink and was putting the world and his step dad to rights while kicking his car and caravan till early hours and every now and then we'd throw a comment in to keep him going,
Lol! My mate got shit faced last year and pissed on my tent...... it was not a happy moment!

Cheers Muz, What length and diameter do you think i should get?

http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/index.p...=465_1152_1153

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Any ideas on the diameter and length i need for the front coil overs lads? i want to get these ordered this eve, The backs are -1 inch so i guess i need a suitable length front spring?!?! I know they adjust just don't know if they have to be with in range or something.

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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 10:31 AM
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Any clue on the front lads size wise?

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Have you got a set of vernier calipers and a tape measure?
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HAHAHA indeed i do, i was just being lazy and wanted to order them before i removed them from the car,

The diameter isn't really this issue, is it measured OD or ID? However the length im not sure about, if i only want to drop the car by an inch what length spring would people recommend?

And now for the probably REALLY stupid question. I have never fitter nor removed coil overs, im about to remove mine in 10mins or so, are the springs located at the top ie)are they going to explode when i undo them top nut? Stupid i know but i don't have any spring compressors small enough for them. I assume they are located as per standard ford shock/springs but though i would check lol

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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 04:50 PM
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You need to measure the Internal diameter of the spring! The springs won't explode out the top mate lol, coilovers are slightly different in design whereby you just looosen off the collars which will remove any tension (preload) in the springs if there is any.
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Good stuff Just had horrible memorys of a citroen i stripped when i was younger, was standing over it undoing the strut top when the spring flew out and near knee capped me lol bloody hurt, just expected it to be the same as design as a sierra lol

Cheers for all your help mate

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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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for a coilover diameter im going to say aboout 2.25" thats the usual one.

most places will do 1.9, 2, 2.225 and 2.5" and are about £50 or less for the pair
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Good stuff, cheers mate, and as rstdave pointed out i was just being lazy lol will have a proper measure tomorrow.

Cheers

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