well i have nearly finished building my impreza huge spec, just needs spraying up,But my heart is with the cossie,

im only 19 so, i wanted to buy a mrk 5 escort, is this the version i need to put the cossie kit on?

are the replica kits all fibreglass? If so i will do some sheel metal to finish them off to prevent cracks.

i have an impreza 4x4 base, which im sure i can make fit to the escort shell ive seen a scooby rear wheel drive system in one,so im sure its possible. i was going to use a big turbo cossi lump, with box and loom + the management and build like a kit car dash with a st800 dash display.
i will join up at propshaft, ovisly custom made, and i think i mite haft to run cossie front drive shafts, hubs and custom mounts for wish bones and suss, i will be seem welding the whole front end making custom top mounts and a full cage to give it extra strengh as there will be a big transmission tunnel.

could you let me know what model escort i need, 3 door, whats the best rep kit, what engine and box am i looking for, and any hiddin detail. hes a few pics of my impreza

 

what exactly are you doing? making an escose rep with impreza running gear? sounds interesting mate.

 

hey phil its good to see you on here after adrenalin trip

you need a 3 door mk5 shell

replica kits are fiberglass but make sure you have a good look around as some are realy cheap and dont look like a genuine escos. See my thread in my sig to have alook at my rep build

Make sure you get a kit where the front arch's match the wheels, some are moulded of genuine cosworth items which is no good for a replica as the wheel base is longer on a cosworth than it is on a standerd escort, so the front wheels sit too far back in the arch and looks naff

also on the rear quaters make sure you get a kit where the quater meets the rear spoiler correctly, some fall short and it doesnt look right.

personaly i dont see the advantage of making a 4x4 cosworth rep.. you wont gain anything as the cost involved to do the work will be near the price of a genuine cosworth if not over, it will be good to see with a impreza engine but otherwise id have a think..

my rep is staying fwd using a focus rs turbo engine so it will have good power and be able to handle it, BUT it will be reliable and can be used everyday comforatbly unlike a genuine escort cosworth which you wouldnt want to use as a daily driver.

 

Yes you can make anything from the Impreza fit in an Escort shell.

I've got a MK6 with Impreza engine and running gear in (WIP)

 

thanks mcgoo,

rite im planning

mrk 5 3 door escort
cossie rep kit
big turbo cossie lump
cossie box
cossie transferbox
custom prop shaft
cosie subframe and front running gear
scooby diff
scooby back beam and running gear
custom dash kit
custom tranny tunnel
custom cage
custom bk top mounts

 

could you get me some pics and how you mounted the bk running gear please

 

can get a escos for all the money and effort you will put into that

at the end of the day it will be an expecive replica, you will have alot of trouble selling it if you ever want to and wont get good money unless you break all your hard work and graft.

Also the mk5 escort is not the same length as a genuine EsCos, you can pic a EsCos up from 8k, or try and find a smashed up one and repair it,

or just buy a rolling shell and do it pay as you go style, as at the end of the day, it will never be a proper cosworth does not matter if you put full escos gear in it, its still a replica.

 

i would go for a escos shell tbh

 

would there be any point to that really? surely the subaru diff would be the wrong ratio for the rest of the cossie gear anyway

and why take an escort, make it look like a cossie, put a cossie engine in it, chop about bodging subaru bits onto it and what you end up with it something that looks like, costs more, but isnt an escort cosworth, just seems a bit daft, if your going to convert someting to 4wd then why not something special like a fiesta or capri or something

 

From what you are planning to do - just buy an Escort Cosworth?

 

i already have scooby running gear,= cost nothing
cossie shell 2000 people want,are they mental
cossie insurance = mental
never seen a cossie for under 9k on an l plate = mental
escort 500
cossie front 2k
cossie kit 1k

3500 for a 4x4 cossie rep sounds good to me + cheap tax and insurance

i can do all the work so theres no labour

 

ok ive been thinking, i mite just buy a cossie shell, and use a cossie front subframe and upfront drive system, ive found a custom propshaft, cossie big turbo engine b ox and transfer but its rwd, so i will be splitting the box or swapping it for a 4x4 box,


Anyone know of any whale tail shells then. cheers

 

If you allready have the subaru why not use that engine?

 

cause that would meen alot more work,

these are some pics of bits



custom prop

rwd box n tranny box

 

so you want ot use a cossie shell....cossie engine.....cossie box, have i missed the point here or someting?

if you have a cossie shell then you will pay cossie insurance and then some when you tell them that its got all kinds of subaru bits stuck to it, its still beyond me why you would want to do that anyway

if you can do all the fabrication yourself then a subaru powerd fiesta or something would be great, did you see the rear subaru engines mk2 fez in last months fast ford? it was awesome

 

not if i buy a cossie shel with missing id. i can id it as a 1.8 escort, but im doing scooby 4x4 as i aleady have it and its a big part of bdget on a cossie build

 

wou wont be able to id a cosworth shell as a 1.8 escort because of the simple fact that it isnt one, that would be nearly ringiing

 

So your gonna build a replica thats a ringer? - sounds like a right plan

 

sounds worse than an epispode of Chop Shop.

 

The only scooby bit you appear to be using is the rear diff?

I really fail to see how that makes the project any easier than using a cossie one you can buy for a couple of hundred quid anyway.


you seem to have TOTALLY forgotten about the steering?
Have you seen how different the mk5 shell is to a cossie shell, which is basically a sierra.


If you want to do it on the cheap and dont mind fabrication work then do the following:

Buy a ford sierra
cut the shell off the floor pan
Buy a ford escort
cut the shell off the floor pan

attach escort shell to sierra floor pan


then all the cossie gear will bolt straight in

if you want to then fit an imprezza rear diff, feel free.

 

just get the imprezza sprayed, END OF!

 

 

i know that there is a company on ebay that sells f'glass kits of the cossy
front bumper
rear bumper
front archs
rear archs
side skirts
i think that both archs n the skirts come to round £500
hope this helps you out

 

impreza is getting sprayed at the weekend

think some of you need to go back and read all my posts, ive read up on a couple of things and i am going to buy a cossie shell, and use the scooby running gear, as i already have it and drop a cossie engine in,

this will be cheaper as i can get a cossie shell,

custom prop for scooby diff, box and transfer box and engine off a mate, all in them pics

then thats why i can just buy 2 bucket seats and make a kit car dash for half the price of all the other cossie parts

for half the price of a cossie

 

you would have to use a subaru clutch, theyre backwards

edit: hang on, that wont work, not unless you want the cossie engine sticking out of the front of the car, subaru box's are like a transaxle with a prop coming out of the back, the flat 4 is a short engine

 

Also at 19, you try insuring it.

 

insured my scoobys ok

the cossie lump and scooby lump have there gearboxes the same...they tuke under the bulk heads look at my pics, cossie is the same

but im using cossie lump and gearbox anyway

 

you need to do some reasearch mate, that statement is completly wrong

 

erm, which part?

 

you will strugle to find someone to insure you at 19 on a 2.0 turbo car thats a pick and mix. alot of companys will say no

 

well a cossie lump sits sideways on and the gearbox comes out the side, so it ends up going under the bulk head, the scooby engine is a short block with the gear box out the back and crank in the middle, both engines sitting in a cossie will have the gearbox the same.

 

the only thing that will be mixed is the driving gear, al just insure it as a cossie,

 

scooby and cossie gearboxes are tottally different

the scooby box has its front diff built in the gearbox hence the front shafts in there on the sides, the cossie backs has a seprate front diff that runs through the sump

no way you can run the scooby gearbox with a cossie lump, well it could be done if you move the engine so far forwad so the front shafts line up with the centre of the arches, but then the engine will be sitting where the bumper should be

 

why do all this?? you say cos you cant afford to insure a coosie, then you say your gonna insure it as a cossie, dont get me wrong i love to see people doing things differently and using their own ideas but this one doesnt seem practical at all

 

how does a cosworth engine sit sideways on? its not transverse you know, its not like a normal escort

 

right i know what you meen now, i came up with this plan not knowing much ford stuff. but i have been doing research on them and decided back in this thread to use a cossie gear box and transfer, if you read up.

 

because im still deciding on the best way

 

it sits sideways in the engine way the block isnt turned sideways, how way now think about it