was speaking to a alarm fitter about a clifford 650 system with dual proximity sensors, but he mentioned to me about the viper 480 system which is exactly the same but with a pager to tell you the alarm is going off?

what doyou think? ive never heard of viper?

 

i'd personnaly not touch either and stick with toad!!!!!

 

great! so why wont you touch them?

 

My clifford has been fitted on the car 6 years, ive owned it a while now and not had one single issue.

As a rule if you get it fitted by a clifford installer you wont have any problems.

 

had a few cliffords, like VW said, if fitted properly, i guess there ok, but after the trouble ive had with them, i dont touch them, i can fit a toad ai606 myself, so i can do it hows i want it and never had a problem with them ever

 

Viper, Clifford and Hornet are all made by the same company I believe. I have a hornet on my DC5 and its been ok, but will be putting a Toad on it in place (some functions I want arent available on the hornet)

chris

 

I had a Clifford which was installed by a Clifford Installer and it was the most temperamental and over sensitive piece of crap ever, first and last clifford

I would also use Toad simply because I've never had issues with them

 

which model?

 

i have the viper 480 system in my cossie with no issues

the viper is made by clifford as well

 

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