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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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Anyone else watching this??

It's just wrong in my opinion, such stunning magnificent animals being shot for fun.
I'm no crusty tree hugging veggie hippy dont get wrong but this is just sick.

Used to shoot pigeons and crows with an air rifel as a kid (not proud now) but
how do you put a lion or kudo (spelling?) in your cross hairs and pull the trigger? then go and fork out 10's thousands of dollars? mad!!
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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Bloody savages.

Where's the fun (if you can call huntung fun) in sitting in a hide 20ft from a watering hole and shooting a deer or hog?

Wankers make my piss boil.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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Just seen that and it was absolutely shocking. Its just so so wrong to shoot an innocent animal in that way. Thats not hunting at all imo. Hunting is killing an animal to survive as it used to be many years ago (and still is in some parts of the world), not paying thousands of dollars to kill a defenceless animal to stuff and stick up on your wall!

Hunting to survive is sort of ok imo, but this is just disgusting.

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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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Just seen that and it was absolutely shocking. Its just so so wrong to shoot an innocent animal in that way. Thats not hunting at all imo. Hunting is killing an animal to survive as it used to be many years ago (and still is in some parts of the world), not paying thousands of dollars to kill a defenceless animal to stuff and stick up on your wall!
I couldn't watch that and purposely didn't. Makes me so fucking angry so I watched something else.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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First off, no, I would not kill the animal either. However, whilst watching the programme I felt my opinion changed a wee bit. Started off thinking what sick buggers, but then thought that if there were no 'hunts' then there would be no animals as that's why they are bred.

These hunts and why does it always seem to be fat americans! are a source of revenue for these farms, who can then plough the money back into the breeding programme/infrastructure of the country. It's my understanding that not all of the more exotic animals are hunted and they are bred to keep them from extinction.

Like I say, not really sure where I stand on it, but could not pull the trigger, I think because there is no skill involved, or is it cos they had dopey eyes.
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First off, no, I would not kill the animal either. However, whilst watching the programme I felt my opinion changed a wee bit. Started off thinking what sick buggers, but then thought that if there were no 'hunts' then there would be no animals as that's why they are bred.

These hunts and why does it always seem to be fat americans! are a source of revenue for these farms, who can then plough the money back into the breeding programme/infrastructure of the country. It's my understanding that not all of the more exotic animals are hunted and they are bred to keep them from extinction.

Like I say, not really sure where I stand on it, but could not pull the trigger, I think because there is no skill involved, or is it cos they had dopey eyes.
Dopey fat Yanks from what has been said so far..........
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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After watching it all the way to the end it was another good doc from louis as they always put both sides of the argument accross very well so you can make your own opinion either way at the end.

I can see both sides now but still could not pulll the trigger... now way.

but i love a good medium rare fillet, so what does that make me?
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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shit didnt know it was on. i love louis theroux progs!
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 09:43 PM
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it was not really hunting imo, as it was far too easy. but that is the way that the farms make their money, so that's what they do. at the end of the day, it's a business.

it was a good programme, but theroux is a dopey git at times. fair enough that he could not bring himself to shoot an animal, but he does eat meat that has been killed in far less humane ways - as do most of you who are objecting to it probably - and that makes him a hypocrite.

if you don't focus on the hunting aspect of what is happening, what you actually have is not a bad situation. you have many breeds being properly managed, whereas in a lot of africa they are dying out due to the natives not managing them properly and just continuing to kill because they are either hungry for the meat or are poaching to sell the skins, horns or whatever.

at least on these 'hunts' the animal is being used for what they were put on this planet for - food. they are not just being shot for fun and wasted.

i had a braai party last summer and got some imported south african meat of kudu, zebra, warthog, impala, springbok etc that was superb and probably came from these types of farms. it's good, sustainable agriculture in my opinion.
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Lambchop
shit didnt know it was on. i love louis theroux progs!
Watch it on http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 09:23 AM
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the disturbing thing was not shooting the game it was the fact he said if he had enough money then he would kill an elephant or lion!! these wont be bred specially for this

didnt watch all of it as too upsetting but saw enough, wasnt a suprise to me at all
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 09:31 AM
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I watched Tiger - Spy in the Jungle... but couldn't bring myself to watch humans killing animals for fun. The BBC & Louis Theroux are mindless twats for even thinking of hosting something like that, especially at prime time viewing
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 09:57 AM
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ah nice one! never used this but Moyles talks about it on R1 all the time!
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 10:18 AM
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I have read some of the comments and would like to know those who say its disgusting cruel ect ect are you vegitarians ??? The programme does not really show the real Africa by the way
anyone know what Halal meat is by the way do you find this way of killing animals cruel ???

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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 10:26 AM
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agree that its not hunting at all, its just a theme park for fat yanks to play hunter, the guy said himself even if you cant shoot to save your life they'd make sure you got the kill.

but sadly at the end of the day if it wasn't for the money from the hunts the animals wounldnt be bred at all. and at least they get to run wild etc unlike alot of live stock.
its the same with seal clubbing, its cruel and very sad, but as long as theres a demand for it and people are willing to pay money, its going to happen.

although i was kinda shocked to hear the guy say he'd shoot a rhino or elephant if he had the money!
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by FastFordChris
agree that its not hunting at all, its just a theme park for fat yanks to play hunter, the guy said himself even if you cant shoot to save your life they'd make sure you got the kill.

but sadly at the end of the day if it wasn't for the money from the hunts the animals wounldnt be bred at all. and at least they get to run wild etc unlike alot of live stock.
its the same with seal clubbing, its cruel and very sad, but as long as theres a demand for it and people are willing to pay money, its going to happen.

although i was kinda shocked to hear the guy say he'd shoot a rhino or elephant if he had the money!
The objective of the programme was to make out ALL Afican hinting is a "canned hunt"
meaning all the animals are fenced in,canned hunts also take place in the UK
please do not think ALL hunting is like waht they were trying to show on the TV as its not also the programm did not show or even mention waht happnes to the money and even the meat with what gets shot,theres a lot more to it believe me
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by FastFordChris
agree that its not hunting at all, its just a theme park for fat yanks to play hunter, the guy said himself even if you cant shoot to save your life they'd make sure you got the kill.

but sadly at the end of the day if it wasn't for the money from the hunts the animals wounldnt be bred at all. and at least they get to run wild etc unlike alot of live stock.
its the same with seal clubbing, its cruel and very sad, but as long as theres a demand for it and people are willing to pay money, its going to happen.

although i was kinda shocked to hear the guy say he'd shoot a rhino or elephant if he had the money!
the canadians let peole go and kill seal cubs to keep their numbers under control
probably something to do with not enough polar bears to eat them all or soemthing, but i digress
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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The objective of the programme was to make out ALL Afican hinting is a "canned hunt"
meaning all the animals are fenced in,canned hunts also take place in the UK
please do not think ALL hunting is like waht they were trying to show on the TV as its not also the programm did not show or even mention waht happnes to the money and even the meat with what gets shot,theres a lot more to it believe me

oh more then sure that it is just one example of hunting (if you can call it that) but i think the whole point of the show was to point out that these places excist and that the whole concept of hunting has been watered down to the point where its not a hunt and more of a shooting range.
but then this kind of thing isn't anything new in our society as theres a theme park for just about anything these days.

but like i mentioned before the animals seem to have a better life then alot of live stock do.

it was kind of annoying when the farmer guy kept going on about how every animal would kill you given the chance lol when louis wanted to touch one of them kudus (?) and he said it would rip his hand off! lol
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i think that the show should have been filmed ala 10,000 bc, hunting with spears and shit, at least it would have given the animals a decent chance to fight back
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FastFordChris
oh more then sure that it is just one example of hunting (if you can call it that) but i think the whole point of the show was to point out that these places excist and that the whole concept of hunting has been watered down to the point where its not a hunt and more of a shooting range.
but then this kind of thing isn't anything new in our society as theres a theme park for just about anything these days.

but like i mentioned before the animals seem to have a better life then alot of live stock do.

it was kind of annoying when the farmer guy kept going on about how every animal would kill you given the chance lol when louis wanted to touch one of them kudus (?) and he said it would rip his hand off! lol
it was the sables that he said that about - kudu are basically like cows.

the programme is deliberately trying to be controversial, but in my opinion it had the opposite effect. i had nothing but admiration for the owners of these farms. much better than the way much of the livestock is kept and killed in this country.
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
it was the sables that he said that about - kudu are basically like cows.

the programme is deliberately trying to be controversial, but in my opinion it had the opposite effect. i had nothing but admiration for the owners of these farms. much better than the way much of the livestock is kept and killed in this country.
Kudos are not like cows mate the bulls can be very dangerous,I know Ive seen it,your bang on with your admiration for the farm owners again Ive seen what work they do first hand,Iam actually of to Africa for the 3rd time in a few weeks
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