Whats the guy playing at with the F1 circuit ..... It seems like hes taking away Britains motorsport heritage in favour of the new circuits around the world.

I wish he'd just feck off and leave, before the sport gets so tedious I'll begin to hate it. The man has too much control over what happens and its just not healthy

 

Its rediculous that it has been allowed to get to a situation where ONE person is pretty much controlling the whole sport!
Sooner he fucks off the better

 

Here here! The mans a fruitcake, a greedy one at that!

 

There has been so much it's off, then it's on then it's off again I wish they'd just sort it out once & for all and keep it going. The mans got plenty of cash why doesn't he step in & help out. It was this sport that help him build his fortunes

 

get rid of him

 

Dont get me started on Bernie

Not only is he a multi "Billionaire" but he thrived off of the fact when F1 used to be a "bloodsport" in the 70's. Drivers dying every year in tragic accidents.

Silverstone aint the drivers circuit it used to be but there are a lot worse out there!! C'mon Bernie sort it out and keep the british GP (even though I still think its shit - F1 that is)

 

Bernie made F1 the commercial sucess it is today.

You might not like him but he does his best to keep the sport healthy. if Silverstone wasn't shit compared to the some of the other circuits in terms of facilities and there wasn't any probs with Tobacco Advertising etc then it may have a race......

 

No, F1 itself and the media and us the fans, made it what it is today. Hes just grossly profiteered out of it with a gentle shove along the way which many other people could have done. I'm not knocking the guy for his success, but just for been a one man domineering goon, who shouldn't be able to make all and every decison himself cause hes rich.

Silverstones not the best circuit around and the improvement that took a few years are hardly noticable in comparison ...but there are other circuits and even new ones could be built.

I just find it a shame that its been took away after supporting the event for so many years ....

 

As with most things these days it's all about money. The new cicuits around the world have a huge amount of government money thrown at them. Can anyone see labour throwing a few million at a new F1 cicuit or upgrades to current cicuits.

Eccleston needs to go, but he has a stranglehold on the sport at the moment, so he can pretty much dictate terms to everyone else. Greedy Little TWAT.

 

 

Brief history on Bernie and Max Mosely....and Simon T....how exactly did he 'thrive off the sport' during the 70's?

I think some people need to look a bit more closely at what Bernie Ecclestone has actually done before making a knee jerk reaction about the british GP.



FROM BBC SPORT

Bernie Ecclestone made Formula One what it is today, and he rules the sport through a mixture of fear, respect and acute business acumen.

The one-time motorcyle salesman can claim pretty much all the credit for transforming the sport into the huge global brand it is today.

It was Ecclestone who started the F1 revolution in the 1980s by persuading team owners that he should negotiate on their behalf for television and marketing rights.

As a result, he is now an extremely wealthy man.

Reputed to be worth Ł2.3bn, Ecclestone and his family occupied eighth position on the Sunday Times Rich List for 2004.

His love of motor racing began in the 1950s, but a crash ended his career as a driver.

He then moved into management. His first client was Stuart Lewis-Evans, who was killed in a crash.

Ecclestone then managed the Austrian Jochen Rindt, who also died in a crash but became the first driver to be posthumously named world champion.

In the 1970s, Ecclestone bought the Brabham team.

He sold the company in the late 1980s, and then launched his bid to overhaul Formula One's commercial arrangements.

Ecclestone now owns a network of companies which have the exclusive right to sell and market the International Automobile Federation's (FIA) TV rights.

In 2000, the FIA agreed to lease him the rights for 100 years, which further increased his position.

In March 2000, he sold 50% of one of his companies, SLEC Holdings, to German broadcaster EM.TV.

The shares then passed to media giant Kirch, which acquired another 25% of the business, leaving Ecclestone with 25%.

Kirch collapsed in 2002, with three banks - Bayerische Landesbank, Lehman Brothers and JPMorgan - taking over its stake in F1.

While talks go on about the sale of the banks' shares, Ecclestone's grip on the sport remains is undiminished.

Now 73, he has often said that the pursuit of wealth is no longer the main driving force in his life.

But, as the dispute over the future of Silverstone has shown, Ecclestone will never allow himself to come off second best in any deal.


MAX MOSLEY
Mosley is the son of controversial MP Oswald Mosley, the leader of the British Union of Fascists in the 1930s.

At one time he considered a career in politics, but was advised against it because it was thought his family background would count against him.

The qualified barrister has, however, used his skills to good effect as president of Formula One's ruling body the FIA.

While Ecclestone has a reputation as a streetwise salesman, Mosley is seen as a cerebral operator, responsible for implementing a raft of changes to the way the sport is run.

His involvement with motor racing began in the late 1960s when he founded March - a parts manufacturer.

The company then moved into building F1 cars and built up a dominant position in American Indy Car racing in the 1980s.

Mosley, however, extricated himself from March to concentrate on F1 politics.

He was Ecclestone's lawyer during a bitter dispute within the sport in the early 1980s, and played a key role in drafting the Concorde Agreement which settled the issue and still governs F1 today.

By 1991, Mosley had become president of the sporting arm of the FIA. Two years later, he was elected president of the whole federation.

Through the FIA, he has involved himself in road safety, and takes pride in the part he played in the introduction of the Euro NCAP crash test standards.

Over the years, Mosley has had a number of spats with F1 car makers over his plans for the sport.

He announced in July that he intended to quit his FIA role at the end of the season, saying that he found discussions with team owners increasingly tedious.

But he subsequently decided to stay on until at least October 2005 after the FIA Senate asked him not to step down.

Mosley has also had public rows with Ecclestone.

But many Formula One insiders believe these are just part of a well crafted plan to strengthen their control over the sport.

Whatever team owners, manufacturers and F1 fans may think of them, few would dispute that the pair form a brilliant and powerful double act.

 

little man syndrome.

Giving it the big'un showing everyone who's boss.

I mean - is it really about the money?? - the guy's minted.

he doen's half look a bit weird too. - separated at birth Bernie Ecclestone/ Andy Warhol

 

f1 is too boring nowadays to care about
its a shame businesses etc will lose alot of money out of it

 

This could be a serious post from Paddy

I'll be honest, Silverstone is f#cking sh1t.

I've been to Grand Prixs all over the world and ours is BY FAR the worst I've been to.

The BDRC are a bunch of "jobs for the boys" tossers who've put fuck all back into making silverstone a decent circuit. They have earned extremely well out of the F1 over the years but the facilities are shocking.

HOW EASY IS THE PLACE TO F#CKING GET TO???? You like traffic jams? Other circuits such as Spa, Monaco, Hockenheim, San Marino, Adelaide, Magne Cours to name a few have FAR superior access to the circuits is either by public transport or an adequate road system.

Good on Bernie for sticking it up 'em.

Maybe they'll pul their fingers out their crusty old arses and make silverstone worthy of a place on the F1 circuit.

 

Since about 1996 F1 has been so dull. I watch the first 5 laps and the build up and thats it. WRC is so much more exciting.

 

Self abuse keeps me amused for hours.

 

always thought le mans is better
cheaper and better fun

 

Deffo cheaper Nige as F1 in this country is probably the most expensive venue compared to European ones ....It does work out cheaper to go abroad and do it... and Silverstone IMO is pooh

Anyway where did my last post go

 

fair enough Nige, but not on a public forum.

 

The only problem i have with Bernie is, who is he to set the price of hosting a F1 GP at a venue. He now has total control over which countrys offer to pay what to host a F1 GP there and the way i see it is the highest bidder is going to win.

I thought there was a monoply commision in place to stop situations like this one? (i.e 1 person having total control over millions of pounds of rights within a sport)

 

My two cents worth......

I dont care how good or bad anyone thinks the british GP is.

The fact is, the UK is THE home and birthplace of motorsport and to NOT have
a GP in our own country is an insult to everyone here.

I would gladly smack that little f**ker Bernie in the danglies given a chance.

Hasnt he got enough money yet ?

 

Thats where your wrong France is but apart from that I agree with you

 

well tbh thing its well over priced there anyway, good day out but not worth the money now days

id rather go to a better track in europe tbh

 

YEAH HES A WANMKLER

 

ive not read all the posts on here due to the no. but from what ive read in the papers n magazines etc ive heard both sides.

It seems to me that silverstone has been taking the piss out of formula 1 for years, constantly getting cheaper rates than all the other tracks despite the noticably poorer facilities, accesss and a whole load of other aspects.

From what i read Bernie discussed renewing the tracks commitment to the F1 circuit, and again wanted a substantialy cheaper rate. It had previously been mentioned that silvertone as a whole would need to be brought upto the std of the other european and international circuits and this wasnt done. Therefore he offered the contract at the same price as all the other european tracks to be fair.. and again the silverstone big wigs wanted a much cheaper price..

So i think from what ive read that bernie was right, they are taking the piss, i fink one person said silvertone has become a name not to be questioned over the years its just been accepted as "ohh we cant disagree as its silverstone" and bernie himself said youd expect the home of racing to be best track in the world but has become more of a summer fete in the middle of some woods..

If all that about the commitee taking the piss then i fink fair play.. Might give them an incentive 2 sort sumfin out.. he said himself he's sorry 2c it go.. but just isnt fair on the other tracks..

 

nOT MEASN GINEGE

hes just got a pamnytyail he nit a wanker