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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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hi guys, is anyone running there cossie on megasquirt? i know it does wonders and s#*t miracles for an rs turbo. but is it good for a cossie? my mate builds the kits and installs them just wondering if it was worth getting.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 09:41 AM
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I wouldn't trust MegaSquirt to run an RST engine let alone a Cossie one. It's sposed to be very crude indeed
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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anyone else got any views on it?
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 04:32 PM
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there is nothing wrong with the standard cossie management though..

even if you are runnning L1. you can upgrade to L8 or P8,
look what stu can do for L8 these days


EDIT: unless you are going for huge power and/or want all the toys etc that
other ecus give you.. but im guessing you aint?

people still run L1/6/8 p8 managment on big power engines!
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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ive used the megasqirt on a 21 turbo and on a zetec turbo THERE IS ABSOLUTLY NOTHING WRONG WITH THE SYSTEM

but it all depends on who will set it up as it has so much more to offer than the standard system out of te box .but if your not a mapper or no a good tuner then stick with a l8 and a few of the msd goodies
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
I wouldn't trust MegaSquirt to run an RST engine let alone a Cossie one. It's sposed to be very crude indeed
Actually far more refined than the majority of aftermarket systems... The transient control is superb.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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I wouldn't trust MegaSquirt to run an RST engine let alone a Cossie one. It's sposed to be very crude indeed
Actually far more refined than the majority of aftermarket systems... The transient control is superb.
at last we agre rick on something by the way my ecu issues are sorted
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 04:43 PM
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so would there be alot of benifits running it on a 4x4 cossie or would you stick with standard management.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 04:44 PM
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well yes what do you want it to do
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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well it was just a thought thats all i would like to see the 400bhp mark, its my brother mate who builds the kits and installs them and he says its a quality bit of kit, hes running 300bhp+ in his festa with megasquirt, i just wanted everyone else's opinion.
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right ok a standard system will cope very easy its wether u want launch ect
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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On a cossie - i would stick with std - as u can do anything u could need with it.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 04:53 PM
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to true rick theres more to putting another ecu on theres lots of tuners that can map a l8 to do what u want
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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nice one guys. saved me self a few quid there. cheeRS
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
I wouldn't trust MegaSquirt to run an RST engine let alone a Cossie one. It's sposed to be very crude indeed
Ever mapped a car with MS or more to the point any other ECU?

Thought not.

MS is far from crude and will hold its own with nnearly all ECUs in the under a grand market.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
I wouldn't trust MegaSquirt to run an RST engine let alone a Cossie one. It's sposed to be very crude indeed
Ever mapped a car with MS or more to the point any other ECU?

Thought not.

MS is far from crude and will hold its own with nnearly all ECUs in the under a grand market.
I'm not a mapper, just going on information I'd been given. If the information isn't correct then I'm open to being enlightened.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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One of my mates runs MegaSquirt its a good management but who ever called it MegaSquirt should be shot
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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i mapped a focus rs engine last week with ms to 20psi with no problems

we raced it against my brothers jabasport maped octavia vrs and the focus well and truly spanked it

it took me 12 hours on the road to map it with all the egt guages electronic det cans wideband etc

the lads 4 pot brembos was shagged when he got his car back lol
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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what was the EGT's on the FRS at 20psi? what turbo?
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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all std stuff with secat and stainless exhaust/downpipe and on a flat out run it was knocking on 800 with 78 lamda

i could put on a fair bit of ignition whitch i wasnt expecting so it must be fairly low comp or have a rearly nice combustion chamber
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
Originally Posted by Garage19
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I wouldn't trust MegaSquirt to run an RST engine let alone a Cossie one. It's sposed to be very crude indeed
Ever mapped a car with MS or more to the point any other ECU?

Thought not.

MS is far from crude and will hold its own with nnearly all ECUs in the under a grand market.
I'm not a mapper, just going on information I'd been given. If the information isn't correct then I'm open to being enlightened.
consider yourself enlightened

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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
what was the EGT's on the FRS at 20psi? what turbo?
garerth didnt stu say had several up to 1000 ?


makes me laugh about the megasquirt people to ready to slate it on some bodies say so who probably never mapped a car
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:13 AM
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the std focus RS manifold is what takes the egt's through the roof.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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What MS setup is best to convert a 200bhp RST?
as a mate wants to convert his track RST.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mrviper
all std stuff with secat and stainless exhaust/downpipe and on a flat out run it was knocking on 800 with 78 lamda

i could put on a fair bit of ignition whitch i wasnt expecting so it must be fairly low comp or have a rearly nice combustion chamber
strange, as ive heard they run hotter than that on standard boost, of cause it depends where the probe is
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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Gareth - suspect it's not in a Focus with std manifold


Dan - i can guide you through all/any aspects of MS, but you're best asking more specific questions. As a start, the V3 board, with the Megasquirt 2 CPU running MS2/Extra firmware, and twin coil drivers running wasted spark is a very very nice setup.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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The std manifold was a cost reduction from Ford's bean counters... It was designed to have a lovely equal length pipe setup.

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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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there are quite a few merkurs running on megasquirt now. they all say it is wonderful and easy to set up. you just have to fine tune the maps. you can also use the megatune software to let it automatically set up the base maps for you.
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megasquirt rules if your on a budget and you have someone to ask question...my main issue with it is that due to its nature (DIY) you end up having to know a bit about it to get it to work...

Plus a lot of tuners wouldnt touch it when it first came on the scene a few yrs ago.....

Megasquirts main advantage IMO is that its software is open source, it probably has in excess of thousands of people all imputting int o its development and features, they offer baby boards..upgrades etc..all free of charge.

If you know what your doing a bit then you cant go far wrong with a MS setup.

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Originally Posted by SillyFezzaMk1
megasquirt rules if your on a budget and you have someone to ask question...my main issue with it is that due to its nature (DIY) you end up having to know a bit about it to get it to work...

Plus a lot of tuners wouldnt touch it when it first came on the scene a few yrs ago.....

Megasquirts main advantage IMO is that its software is open source, it probably has in excess of thousands of people all imputting int o its development and features, they offer baby boards..upgrades etc..all free of charge.

If you know what your doing a bit then you cant go far wrong with a MS setup.

Dan

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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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still, someone thats have a map to me, i could play with
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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had phil ringwoods v3.0 on my fiesta, direct coil fire, launch etc. was brilliant!! once i got to grips with it and theres so many forums on it and alot of helpfull pple if you have any problems
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 07:19 PM
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i use MS, i used to use omex M4, whilst being a very good setup the M4 was nowhere near as user-friendly as the MS, and i found it easyer to wire up and set up, i think i would go for the M4 IF i had a big buget, but for VFM you cant beat the MS in my opinion.
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