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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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just reading an article on rebuilds etc and it got me thinking about the other half's current rebuild!!

whilst I love my car, there is no way on this earth I could warrant spending anything over 10k on it. I know over time I probably will, but to lay that out say over 3-4 month period is just ludicrous surely!!!

I know it gives you a buzz when you drive it, but seriously, what will you get out of it at the end of the day??? Your never going to get that money back whether you sell it or smash it up????

I personally woudnt even dream about spending my savings on it and definiately wouldnt get into credit card/loan debt to do it! Would rather spend it on something that will get my money back in the future!

So - the point is - what was your reason for spending however much you have done on your car?? (apart from the sad gits who will say "i want to be faster than him/her" )
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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i only spend money on it i can afford to lose.

I.e i would never make myself skint and never put my car before certain priorties.

I enjoy spending money on my car, in the same way women like shoe and handbags.

just on a much larger scale
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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totally agree with everything you said Ryan

Out of interest, does anyone know how much the likes of Reyland have spent on a cossie??
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I enjoy spending money on my car, in the same way money like shoe and handbags.
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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dont know,

but in retail money, its gotta be 30k + i would imagine.

but like me and most people im sure he strikes deals along the way
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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I would imagine 50k plus for the likes of martin and rod?
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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totally agree with everything you said Ryan

Out of interest, does anyone know how much the likes of Reyland have spent on a cossie??
On his Escort? approximately a fooking shedload! Transmission alone is over Ł10k if that helps you...

I'm into my Sierra for A FOOKING LOAD more than I paid for my Skyline as well

Skyline may be for sale actually if you are interested? I know you said you might be. I've seen a GT2 I fancy.

I think you can spend what you want. Its only money, can't take it with you. But Sinking it into shonky old Fords is a bit of a weird one and I wonder why we do it sometimes BUT they are very very very fast for relatively little money I suppose!

Anyhow as long as you don't get into debt doing it and your family don't go hungry or without anything they need then I reckon party on and enjoy! however I do wonder when people spend alot on their cars and nothing on where they live

Some people also need to have reality checks and stop pouring endless cash into their cars and just buy something better in the first place *cough* JIM GALBALLY *cough*
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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porkie i think we've all seen a GT2 we fancy

thats on next years wish list for me
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To replicate Martin's car would take at least Ł60-70k if you were to pay him to do it - don't forget he doesn't charge himself labour, but you're looking at the best part of Ł30k in parts alone .

There are plenty of Ł40k+ Escorts out there already (parts and labour) - I know of at LEAST three off the top of my head without having to think hard...
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
To replicate Martin's car would take at least Ł60-70k if you were to pay him to do it - don't forget he doesn't charge himself labour, but you're looking at the best part of Ł30k in parts alone .

There are plenty of Ł40k+ Escorts out there already (parts and labour) - I know of at LEAST three off the top of my head without having to think hard.
Yours must be over that or at least very close to it. Or have you never had the heart to work out all she owes you?
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Mike, its more than Ł30k in parts EASILY in Marts car!
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ohhhhhh Porkie - how come you wait til I get a cossie THEN decide to get rid Going to have to give it a miss though as I have something a bit un-usual in mind for the next car now, but thank you for letting me know

Ł40k+ - honestly I just cant understand why you would spend it on a car. Like i say I love em and I know the thrill of a race is great, but it's just like giving it away!!

60k-70k

HOWEVER - if i won the lottery I have said that i'd get my cossie totally restored and big power engine and I probably wouldnt think twice about spending that!!
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porkie i think we've all seen a GT2 we fancy

thats on next years wish list for me


SILLY SILLY cheap now aren't they! Such amazing value. Been on the phone to my insurance company this morning. Unsurprisngly they are coming back to me
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indeed they are.

see what next year brings me i think work and house wise

but its one of those cars that i really really want!
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HOWEVER - if i won the lottery I have said that i'd get my cossie totally restored and big power engine and I probably wouldnt think twice about spending that!!
Exactly! its all relative. Without wanting to sound like a complete wanker, there is a wide range of people on here and for some people spending Ł1k on their car is actually alot MORE than some people on here spending Ł50k+ if you know what I mean? Cams just ordered a new 997 Turbo for example!

You wouldn't like the Skyline anyway. Shonky Japcrap!

What you planning on next then?

P.S Some SERIOUSLY cheap R33 GTR's out there now. You should think very hard about one of them Ł13k gets you ALOT of car. Fast, fun, big, comfy and awesome to drive!
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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Big money cars are an investment....
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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ian will call you tonight mate if that ok, regards our little venture
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Big money cars are an investment....
Just like shipping ice bergs to the desert, eh
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Originally Posted by Ryan
indeed they are.

see what next year brings me i think work and house wise

but its one of those cars that i really really want!
Never been that into them really BUT I just think they are sooooo cheap now for a car that was almost Ł130k 3 years ago

Or would you prefer a 360 OR a new 997 Carrera S???

Wallet is really itching this morning! it was all that sun this weekend I think!
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indeed they are.

see what next year brings me i think work and house wise

but its one of those cars that i really really want!
Never been that into them really BUT I just think they are sooooo cheap now for a car that was almost Ł130k 3 years ago

Or would you prefer a 360 OR a new 997 Carrera S???

Wallet is really itching this morning! it was all that sun this weekend I think!
I'd quite like a 200sx if you're feeling flush
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it depends largely on how well my next house developement goes.

as after i've done my next venture i'm hopefully pretty much morgage free, so i can look at a nice car, unless i see a nice house that involves a morage.
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Dunno where I go on this thread...

But after spending SHIT loads on my old Series 2's and then Buying Tims old car only to spend more money on it etc I decided enough was enough.
Sold it and got a sensible car- Golf VR6- lasted 2 weeks and I sold it.

Since then I have searched for a good base to build from.
Did that and then realised how much money it would cost.

So I went and got my new Saph- has ALL the right bits and bobs on, ALL the hard work is done and to be honest I NEED to spend nothing.

Price for that 8k- which when you think about it is a lot of money for an old Sierra- but then go and find another car which will beat it for less money or the same- that isn't an old Sierra.
(without using industry contacts+ insure it)

You cant- or I would have done it.

I paid Cash for my car, no loans or owt No credit cards or anything.

I will not even consider going into debt for it- if it breaks it will stay broken untill I can afford to fix it- and if I feel that day wont realisticaly come I will break the car and cut my losses.

There are more important things in life- cars are just a part of mine and always will be to an extent but I've given up getting stressed or being remotly bothered by them anymore.

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I'll have the Skyline if you'll take installments

Was about time you bought yourself one of those. Always wondered what was taking so long!
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this is how i see it................ right i wanted a new car, always wanted a escos but my mates were saying get a e46 m3, evo 8(at the time) impreza sti8 or whatever. so if i had spent Ł42k on a m3, Ł28/30k on a jap car it would be now sitting in my garage worth at least Ł15k less than what i paid for it which is the amount i paid for the escos.(which is probably still worth 15k now.) yes i know you can spend money on them but most of the time to spend on them is a luxury and upto the individual.sometimes the engines can give way yes but if it costs 2/3k to put right thats still alot less than any money you are gonna loss on another vehicle you buy in about twelve months!! you cant expect to own a car and not have runnunig cost or breakdown costs once i a while. surely the fact that a cosworth doesnt really depreciate in value makes up for the money you would lose in buying a different kind of car. the way i see it is its six of one and half a dozen of the other. people get years of motoring out of the likes of escos for next to nothing(suppose if depends if you drive like a cunt really or generally just abuse it) and on resale get there money back or even make a profit.
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less how much you want for the skyline

as pon said, monthly installments ok?
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Porkie - to be honest I have fallen in love with the GT500 thats just or is about to come out in USA (On the cover of Top Gear mag this month)

So, i've set myself 5 years to do everything necessary to get one shipped over here. Its something different and its caught my eye, so fingers crossed x it'll come through for me.

I do still still love skylines, but think they seem to be getting very common on the local roads and therefore I want to be a little different
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
To replicate Martin's car would take at least Ł60-70k.......................
Mike, how much was the engine?

....................you did mention the price once, but I need reminding
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Tracey, very cool cars
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thank you Porkie - at least its still a ford so I wont get snubbed at meets

Thats if I dont change my mind before then
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HOWEVER - if i won the lottery I have said that i'd get my cossie totally restored and big power engine and I probably wouldnt think twice about spending that!!
Exactly! its all relative. Without wanting to sound like a complete wanker, there is a wide range of people on here and for some people spending Ł1k on their car is actually alot MORE than some people on here spending Ł50k+ if you know what I mean? Cams just ordered a new 997 Turbo for example!

You wouldn't like the Skyline anyway. Shonky Japcrap!


What you planning on next then?

P.S Some SERIOUSLY cheap R33 GTR's out there now. You should think very hard about one of them Ł13k gets you ALOT of car. Fast, fun, big, comfy and awesome to drive!


im the 1k version lol
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To replicate Martin's car would take at least Ł60-70k.......................
Mike, how much was the engine?

....................you did mention the price once, but I need reminding
To replicate Martin's engine in it's entirety would be around Ł25k.... .
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thats actually not a bad price Mike. I take it that is purely the engine though and not the running gear like clutchs and suspension?????
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I dont care on the cost as such.

What I do is build cars to a stage where its still a LOT cheaper than buying a different but standard (or different, but modded) car of the same performance.

Dont understand the people who spend twice Cossie money on their RST just to get it as quick as a 270bhp Saff Cossie.

Or the same sorta thing with these 24 valvers, ahem... Jim, JonnyB, etc etc.

Dont mod cars cause I wanna, and dont give a flying fuck about being the fastest type of whatever car, do it cause its the CHEAPEST way to get the performance I want.
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So - the point is - what was your reason for spending however much you have done on your car?? (apart from the sad gits who will say "i want to be faster than him/her" )
I spent a lot (of borrowed money) on my XR4x4 when I was 21 for one simple reason.

I was an idiot.

Like a lot of people at that age I
a: suffered far too much status anxiety
b: had a terrible attitude towards money

Back then I could have justified it all day long too. I'd be the same now if it wasn't for my redundancy.
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I bought my Escort Cossie for the fact i hoped it would not lose too much money when / if i came to sell it and the fact that are rather exclusive...now i know why

I paid 17k for my Cossie and it now stands me in 38k

But, i haven't got myself into debt with it, i wouldnt be doing that, i just cant stop buying crap for it which i never use
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does that crap include a steering rack mate?

got another parcel mate aswell if thats ok
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Dunno yet mate, the bloody thing is still with Harvey

Drop it round mate and i'll sort it
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