Im going to attempt to commit relationship suicide and begin extending the garage whilst the missus is away in a coming weekend...

The garage is just big enough for a normal car... so not big enough for an esc cos if you want to get out of it once its in.

The garage is at the back of the garden, but joined on one side to the neighbours garage.... so rather than knock it down.. i was thinking of building a new wall on the free side, and joining up to it from the original garage.. then knocking down the old wall (now inside)

sound feasible?

Ive never built / bricklayed before, but im not pony by any means when it comes to the ol' DIY so can any brickies give any pointers? tips?

Pls no 'leave it to the pro's ' Its a couple of walls.. not a fooking tibetan palace!

also the roof is asbestos.. best of getting rid eh? I was thinking corrugated stainless?

cheers

 

you will have to knock the existing wall down first and kinda build into the new wall at the corners.

for the new side you will need to dig a foundation and fill it with concrete as the base.

Then theres just the small factor of building the wall straight lol

 

Foundation?

 

Grab yourself a book - there's a big How to DIY B&Q thing I got from WHSMiths - heavy fooker, but loads of useful info on every job round the house etc

The asbestos you'll have to have professionally removed though.

 

foundation wise.. dig a trench for the walls? or dig out the whole extra shape of the new section of garage .. making the wall edges deeper?

 

M8,

My serious opinion, get a builder to do it. You'll be gutted if the roof caves in on the cossie if it's not done right

 

well yeah, your not gonna build a wall on top of the mud now are you

ps i dont know the technical terms used but you get foundations on houses etc lol

 

Wouldn't you need planning permission to do that ?

 

just the new bit, dig down to the original one and make it the same height etc as that.

prolly would be a good idea to get a professional on the case as said, you dont want it collapising lol.

 

i was asking dave you tit, you just posted before me

Dave it wont be too difficult get the old ready mix in for the foundation, yes you will need to dig a trench, get some mates over and pay in beer

the wall might take more than a weekend if you have not done one before. Is it breeze block or brick garage??

 

Wheres our boy "bigwelshlad" when you need him?!

 

Ask Lee Reynolds,he`s a brickie...

Is your roof really asbestos or concrete fibreboard which looks identical to a layman,if it`s asbestos you will have to get it removed by a specialist contractor but if it`s concrete fibreboard you can dispose of it yourself....

 

lol my bad

 

in the curry house eating the menu twice over and washing it all down with 40 pints of lager

 

 

**make sure you talk to your neighbour before you start**

the 'common' wall and roof might be subject to party wall regulations.

If so, you have to inform your neighbour BEFORE you start, in writing, of your intentions.

My parents fell foul of this and it caused (and is still causing) a LOT of grief with the c*nt next door

 

nooo, just tell bigwelshlad its a giant prawn cracker, problem solved

 

 

Build the New wall first, when thats all set start laying the support for the roof on the new wall. And only when its all safe knock down the old wall. The only other problem is can u lay bricks straight and level?

 

I wouldn't touch the roof whether its concrete fibre board or asbestos?

Theres no way of telling the difference.

Get the roof sorted first, as in what your dealing with. No point messing with ya health.

 

cheers guys

I've just found out I need to submit sketches to the council to determine whether I need planning permission or not!

are there any rough guidelines as to what is classed as needing planning permission or not?

 

Also advise the neighbours of the m8's coming round to help

Barbie and Beer whilst doing the job

 

**Edited** to read correctly

 

fook the council - you should not need planning permission if you are staying single story tho

 

IIRC planning is all down to floor area etc. Built my 17' x 24' garage 3 years ago, needed planning and building regs. ŁŁŁŁ's!

Foundation trench will need to be AT LEAST 1 metre deep depending on sub soil etc and then have a min. of 8" of concrete poured in.

Ask "righthooker" (Clive) for some advice, he's a builder.

Not the sort of thing you can do in a weekend mate, the amount of earth you'll remove doing the founds will be very surprising, and skips aint cheap anymore!

 

but maybe check as they can pull it down if you need it and dont have it

Dave I have a mate Bob he can help you with all your questions do you want me to put you in touch

 

did someone say beer?

give me 10 crates and i'll be there with my sidekicks ! LOL

 

Don't want to go against what you've said. But get a professional in, I do house renovations and building work and some of the so called "DIY" stuff i've seen is appauling.

For Instance someone wanted patio doors at the back of their house. Sounds reasonable enough just to open a gap that housed a window before. But instead of supporting the walls whilst taking the old lintal out he decided not to....end result the back of his house fell down.

Surley can't you get a brickie mate around, and you can labour on him?

 

Right **** face:

Always contact the local council, it is only a phone call and some sketches and can save you a LOT of hassle in the end...and be costly.

Have a word with the neighbours and tell em what you intend to do. It is governed by the party wall clause even tho it is only a garage and you need their consent to do any works which will involve that middle wall. If ya not going to touch that wall AT ALL then you dont need their consent but be polite and tell them anyways...

Personally id knock the lot down as ive seen pictures and start again Would. Nice new garage base(raft) and built of that,,,,no need to dig deep founds for a garage. 6 inch thick concrete base, thickened up to 9 inches around the edges where the BWK sits.

If you are extending then dig founds, if it is clay then you should go down a metre as clay expands and contracts with dry and wet conditions. Anything else then go down till its solid, but no less than 500mm. Fill with concrete to about 225mm below finished floor height. Then start the brickwork. As pon said, get a book on how to lay Bricks its easier then telling you....but basically once you have set out the 'bond' on the first course and laid it in mortar, you then build the corners....about 6 course high for a novice, string a line between both corners on the first course and lay the bricks to the line, move the line up and repeat. Make sure the bricks are half bond and your away...

Its a lot harder than it looks to get nice brickwork and TBH it will look a pig no matter how good at DIY you are...but if its ok for you then

Asbestos: :Lots of controversy over this. MOST household stuff is almost harmless and doesnt need to have professional removal but you do have to wear a mask, get special bags from the environmental waste and take it to the local depot in the bags for them to get rid of.. BUT CHECK WITH COUNCIL FIRST!

Any things else just ask....

 

GET A PROPER BRIKKIE IN YOU TIGHT C.NUT

 

good advice there lee mate ! why do us brickies get so much critiisism ?

 

Because people see the shite that DIYers do like Dave *may* do and tie us with the same brush...

Out of ALL the trades in the bulding trade the Bricklayer is the only one that NEEDS to know a lot more than just his trade to get by......

 

couldnt have said it better mate !

 

Pikey Kent c*nt, get a brickie in deffo!

Some PF douchbag has gotta offer thier services!

 

ooooh that doesnt half sounds good. anyone wanna sponsor me ?

 

?????????

 

Yes fat man?? Do your require something........Like feeding?

 

Franco...

If i lived close id glady teach Dave to Lay properly.....

































Their lass that is

Seriously tho i would show him how to go on and check it....but hes a **** in Kent so he can fuck orf....

 

is that an offer?,.....just bring me a few cases and we'll get on fine LOL

 

Well i'd happily do the same Lee!



PS Dave, brick layings an art believe me. most of my uncles are in the building trade so many summer holiday were spent turning my hand to bricklaying,scaffolding and plastering.