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Old May 8, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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Had me welling up that. If they ever got banned over here they will have to fight me to take mine away.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 10:09 AM
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Had me welling up that.
Me too mate, There awesome little dogs.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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Thanks for passing it on benni, its such a shame!
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They aren't all bad......................not at all
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Fucking wrong mate its the owners
Should learn about the dog before purchusing if people know what they were buying mybe be able to bring out its freindly insticts.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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Should sort the fuckin owners out not the dogs
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Old May 8, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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Sorry for being retarded but what's going on?? People banning dogs??
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The pitbull i think banned in a state in america Still they have to be muzzled most other places
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Think they shouldn't be banned the owners should for not having full control off there dogs.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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Oh dear personally most dogs scare the sh1t outta me but that's my issue! As people have said it's the owners that are the problem not the dogs.
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Yea, My dog which is'nt a pitbull got all excited in the street and jumped up and bit the girl in the cheek next door (He's always on the lead but someone left the front door open), He's sooooo friendly aswel yet when i walk him people in the street cross over and stand on the wall etc.. The worst part is he's only a shih tzu
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I've seen that before , as said they will struggle also to take our dog its just some of the fooking idiots that give the dogs a bad name
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Old May 8, 2006 | 11:03 AM
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Yeah you'd love my dogs big but soppy as anything (benni all it takes is something like that and people get scared for life mate, i got bit by a german sheperd was hanging off my leg lol i still walk up to strange dogs and pet them).
Even some guard dogs walk up show no fear they dont think pet them on the head walk of.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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Dogs can be better company than humans sometimes... I know when i'm wound up or in a bad mood he will come into my room with his squeeky bone and look at me as if to say "You wanna play or not" No is never an option.
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That is a very touching video.

I know that my opinions might stir a few negative responses, but I have to say that while I support the fact that the owners are most probably to blame, it's the dogs that attack and how can you ever police the idea of these dog's only going to sensible owners. They are a fighting dog and one that no man could restrain if it decides that it wants to attack. I know it's a far bigger picture and there is alot more to it than that.

Imagine if I wanted to keep a Crocodile as a pet and walk it down the street. There is no way that would be accepted, but it is still a living animal that has as much right to live as any other animal, but it is a killing machine that knows no limits to what it kills.

Don't get me wrong, the last thing I would like to see is these dogs killed, but a way to slow down the breeding of them would be welcome in my opinion. Of course some kind of strict license would be an idea, but people always have ways around it and it only takes one of these dogs in the wrong hands and you could have an infant casualty.
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They are a fighting dog and one that no man could restrain if it decides that it wants to attack.
Thats your argument buggered sadly. They are not fighting dogs.





This chap was beaten up by humans.
So maybe we should ban you all from having kids?
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Old May 8, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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all dogs will fight if put into the right circumstanses, therefore no dogs are fighting dogs unless you want them to be !
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Old May 8, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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The only people who stand up for these types of dogs are the owners of them. After watching that poor cat get killed by these pitbull dogs and the power of them attacking I would advise anyone who wishes to own one get yourselves onto a proper training course as these dogs looked as cute and cuddly as un the picture above.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 01:02 PM
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If I remember correctly the Golden Retriever was number one in the list of number of dogbites each year overhere in Belgium...

But of course people only read what they want to read and that is the "spectacular" article about the pitbull or am staf...
Surely that cute little Goldie wouldn't do a thing like that

Blame the owners, not the dogs!
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im with most of you dont think they could take my dog he would cry to much as he is such a killer
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
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They are a fighting dog and one that no man could restrain if it decides that it wants to attack.
Thats your argument buggered sadly. They are not fighting dogs.





This chap was beaten up by humans.
So maybe we should ban you all from having kids?
But Pit-bulls, were bred for fighting and the majority of bull terrier owners that I have ever met seem to own the dog's due to their reputation and the status it then gives them.

They didn't get that reputation from playing with fluffy toys and mothering groups of baby ducks, did they?
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thats rubbish! i never had them because of their rep.....

and they were never bread for fighting! they are just good at it so ppl use them for that!!! which is fuckin sickening!
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You think any of the bull terrier breeds are bad? Take a look at the next 6 inch high jack russell next time you see one then try put your hand down near them and they'll try to bite the shite out of it. Those little bastards think they are invincible. Pit bulls and staffs are a lot more tollerant than
any of those little fur ball shits.

My mates Mum has a jack russell that trys to attack every one it see's,
they think its cute! " Ah dont mind him he's Tiny" If my Staff acted like that there would be uproar and everyone would want it put down.

Now rant over
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Originally Posted by biglee
thats rubbish! i never had them because of their rep.....

and they were never bread for fighting! they are just good at it so ppl use them for that!!! which is fuckin sickening!
I never said ALL owners have them for their rep.

.....and was the Pit-bull not bred specifically for Pit-fighting?? Correct me (factually) if I am wrong.
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They are a fighting dog and one that no man could restrain if it decides that it wants to attack.
Thats your argument buggered sadly. They are not fighting dogs.





This chap was beaten up by humans.
So maybe we should ban you all from having kids?
But Pit-bulls, were bred for fighting and the majority of bull terrier owners that I have ever met seem to own the dog's due to their reputation and the status it then gives them.

They didn't get that reputation from playing with fluffy toys and mothering groups of baby ducks, did they?
the 'street' rep that they have i agree with. But they arent all bred to fight, only the scum owners would do that to their dogs, but then they are a means to earn money. Owners who have them as pets will obviously not train them to fight. you could train ANY dog to fight. They just use terriers due to their physique.

Did you know that Staff Bull terriers are known among staffie circles as the 'Nanny dog'? due to there good temperament and how they will look after and protect children as if they were there own?

They can be one of the most enjoyable breeds of dog to own if you buy one for the right reasons .
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Originally Posted by biglee
thats rubbish! i never had them because of their rep.....

and they were never bread for fighting! they are just good at it so ppl use them for that!!! which is fuckin sickening!
I never said ALL owners have them for their rep.

.....and was the Pit-bull not bred specifically for Pit-fighting?? Correct me (factually) if I am wrong.
Well your actually right - All of the bull terrier breeds were bread firstly
for bull baiting. Hence the name
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
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thats rubbish! i never had them because of their rep.....

and they were never bread for fighting! they are just good at it so ppl use them for that!!! which is fuckin sickening!
I never said ALL owners have them for their rep.

.....and was the Pit-bull not bred specifically for Pit-fighting?? Correct me (factually) if I am wrong.
well, someone didnt just have an idea" im gona breed a fighting machene today" did they? the dog was already alive and breathing so therefore they wernt bread for fighting....just used for fighting...BIG difference
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Originally Posted by biglee
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thats rubbish! i never had them because of their rep.....

and they were never bread for fighting! they are just good at it so ppl use them for that!!! which is fuckin sickening!
I never said ALL owners have them for their rep.

.....and was the Pit-bull not bred specifically for Pit-fighting?? Correct me (factually) if I am wrong.
well, someone didnt just have an idea" im gona breed a fighting machene today" did they? the dog was already alive and breathing so therefore they wernt bread for fighting....just used for fighting...BIG difference
I don't know enough about the history, but breeds of animals can be created with certain strong points and my knowledge (maybe mislead) is that the Pit-bull was bred as a fighting dog. That could very well be true. I don't mind being corrected, but with factual support.

It's seem co-incidental that almost every case of mauling that you hear about these days involves a bull-terrier. OK, not all cases, but most.

Even if it is down to the irresponsible owners, how can you ever control it? It's a bit like gun's, they don't kill, it's the Gun owners that use them to kill. However, it's not acceptable to walk down the street with a gun is it?
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Originally Posted by biglee
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thats rubbish! i never had them because of their rep.....

and they were never bread for fighting! they are just good at it so ppl use them for that!!! which is fuckin sickening!
I never said ALL owners have them for their rep.

.....and was the Pit-bull not bred specifically for Pit-fighting?? Correct me (factually) if I am wrong.
well, someone didnt just have an idea" im gona breed a fighting machene today" did they? the dog was already alive and breathing so therefore they wernt bread for fighting....just used for fighting...BIG difference
So really you mean;

"Well, someone didn’t just have an idea" I am going to breed a fighting machine today" did they? The dog was already alive and breathing so therefore they weren’t bread for fighting....just used for fighting...BIG difference"

Where does the name come from then?
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Right let me tell you all something,
A good few years ago there was uproar about rottweilers as they are satans dog etc they were going round biting children what a load off old bollocks(how can you bred a dog for fighting it's impossible you can bred them so they certain characteristics and strong heads.
But at the end it is the owners responsiblity to make sure there dog has the right upbringing all dogs are pack animals and origanate from wild animals so if you encourage there natural insticts you are playing a dangorous game full stop.
They tried to ban rotty's also just a group off people going off on one like always just make sure you keep you pitty under control mybe think about showing how good he is by taking him to shows etc.
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
It's a bit like gun's, they don't kill, it's the Gun owners that use them to kill. However, it's not acceptable to walk down the street with a gun is it?
Sorry but you just cant compare these dogs with a gun, Totally different.
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http://www.realpitbull.com/history.html

have a look, i will stand corrected 50% LOL
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It's a bit like gun's, they don't kill, it's the Gun owners that use them to kill. However, it's not acceptable to walk down the street with a gun is it?
Sorry but you just cant compare these dogs with a gun, Totally different.
No, you're right, you can't.

A gun would need 100% human intervention to kill someone.

A Pit-Bull can do it totally of its own accord.
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Originally Posted by biglee
http://www.realpitbull.com/history.html

have a look, i will stand corrected 50% LOL
.....and here is a brief insight into Selective breeding and it existence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_breeding

It is as open to abuse, thereby creating 'monsters' as it is to create proper breeds.
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
A gun would need 100% human intervention to kill someone.

A Pit-Bull can do it totally of its own accord.
So can your/my son/daughter. Where should we draw a line?
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It's a bit like gun's, they don't kill, it's the Gun owners that use them to kill. However, it's not acceptable to walk down the street with a gun is it?
Sorry but you just cant compare these dogs with a gun, Totally different.
No, you're right, you can't.

A gun would need 100% human intervention to kill someone.

A Pit-Bull can do it totally of its own accord.
Same as a human then? A human can do it of his/her own accord, There's alot of bad humans out there.

Edit - You beat me to it stu.
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