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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 11:40 PM
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Hi peeps

some of you might know I have been waiting 5/6 weeks now for my rear platted diff to repaird

anyway i'm cutting a long story short i basically had the diff rebuilt about 4 months ago and it wasn't right form day one ....

I told them that this diff isn't right that it's noisy and when cornering the diff makes a serious noisy which i know that it down to the plates as there is too much preload on the plates and it was also virating a little more that before

while i was down at Martins Reyland place i asked him if i could use his torque wrench so i jaked the one side off the car and took the wheel off then put the torque wrech on the hub nut to see how much pressure was on the plates

and I found out that the plates broke off/free about 110 ft lbs of torque which is seriously no good for road use that it pure 100% track settings

anyway a few weeks the diff lets go on the M6 after showing sticky Paul and his freinds the way home to liverpool ( after Auto sports show nec) been waiting ever since

I finally collected the diff today and i tyred to fit it as i was lifting the diff up to rest it on the rear anti roll bar there was oil driping on my shrit , so i then quickly took it down and placed it on the floor and checked the diff over

there was no fooking front diff seal or cover and not only that the front bolt was lose


heres a few pics this is what i mean





The front bolt was lose so i took it off and there you have it no fooking diff seal or seal cover





now this is what you pay people to do and thats how you get it back

I wanted the car back on the road for this sunday as Mallory Park is on the first venue of the yr for the Ford Salloon championships


this is why i get so worked up because wankers can't do the job right first time

it's not the cars it's the wankers that do shite work that fucks the cars up

it's going back to him tomorrow though his fooking front window

i'm totally piss off i would have had the diff in tonight aswell i'll probally have to wait another 6 weeks

i can see why alot of people do D.I.Y because a lot of wankers don't do it right ,


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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 11:52 PM
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Not good that mate - sometimes you wonder how people run businesses in that fashion....hope you get it sorted soon!!!!

Oh by the way......I hope you put your wheel back on with all the nuts this time!!!
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Old Mar 24, 2006 | 11:58 PM
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who did this for you marco?

local place?

its piss poor workmanship that lets 99% of places down IMO..

its not their car/diff etc so they are not interested in doing this properly...
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 12:19 AM
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Not good
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 07:36 AM
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Wow..... That's really shoddy workmanship, very very poor.

I'm guessing that the place you took it too understands how a diff works, and especially a Limited Slip Diff.....Coz it don't look like it

A good amateur mechanic should have been able to strip and and rebuild it in a couple of hours.

I know how you feel, but for the sake of time.... It might be just worth you getting a seal, checking the torque settings of the diff, and putting it back in yourself....Otherwise I'm sure they'll have it for another week, and at the end of the day, what will the workmanship be like !!!!

This should definately be a Name And Shame !!!!
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by marco polo
i can see why alot of people do D.I.Y because a lot of wankers don't do it right ,


Marco
an im one of em lol marco fuck 6 weeks u want it back ny the end of the week and thats being generous
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 07:55 AM
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Gutted for you Marco

I remember ages ago when i picked the slicks up off you, you said then that the diff wasnt right........Not good at all mate

Hope you sort it soon Pal
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 08:00 AM
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Hi peeps

This is the truth I gave to diff back to Tom @ Gripper who then sends the diffs to Coventry Automotive

Tom only assembles the actual lsds units he doesn't build the diffs

Tom recons that they had build loads of cossie diffs and normaly pretty good which is probally fair enough

lets face it they all make mistakes

i'm going to take the diff back this morning and see what he says i don't think they will do it straight away put i'll ask


if they have a diff seal i stock i'll just fit the myself

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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 08:03 AM
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Gutted for you Marco

I remember ages ago when i picked the slicks up off you, you said then that the diff wasnt right........Not good at all mate

Hope you sort it soon Pal
Tiff

yes and thats why the crownwheel died normal driving about 80 mph on the motorway
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 08:13 AM
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 08:18 AM
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Not good Marco hope u get it sorted soon mate.
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by jaycos
Originally Posted by marco polo
i can see why alot of people do D.I.Y because a lot of wankers don't do it right ,


Marco
an im one of em lol marco fuck 6 weeks u want it back ny the end of the week and thats being generous
Hi Jay

i'm not taring everyone with the same brush but lets be honest who cares if it not there car no fooking one

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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 08:20 AM
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Gutted for you Marco, never an easy ride for you is it pal?
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 08:22 AM
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marco has no luck does he, things come hard for most of us but he must of bin a evil git in a earlier life
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by marco polo
i'm going to take the diff back this morning and see what he says i don't think they will do it straight away put i'll ask

Can't believe this saga is still going on Marco. I wouldn't ask if they can do it straightaway, I'd bloody DEMAND they do it straightaway. Bastards!
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Rhys
Not good Marco hope u get it sorted soon mate.
Ryhs


thats the point i'm fed up of sorting this out 3 times this diff has been built in the last 12 months and do you know what there was nothing wrong with the diff in the first place

i had the engine/gearbox rebuilt ,so i thought i would have the diff check over and all that was wrong with it 1 x bevel plate had broken thats it

and you would even know it was broken all you would lose is a bit of torque on the plates thats it i wouldn't have affected the diff in anyway except for that


all i wanted was the car to last a season without any fook ups thats why i had everything done


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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 08:58 AM
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bad news but the window return

on a lighter note was class

i respect your return to sender views
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Gutted for you Marco, never an easy ride for you is it pal?
it's fooking stress all the time
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by marco polo
i'm going to take the diff back this morning and see what he says i don't think they will do it straight away put i'll ask

Can't believe this saga is still going on Marco. I wouldn't ask if they can do it straightaway, I'd bloody DEMAND they do it straightaway. Bastards!

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I'll will ask him when i go down this mornig
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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marco, i was thinking of having a diff done with these guys, as you said Tom doesn`t build them, what would you advice me.......
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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marco, i was thinking of having a diff done with these guys, as you said Tom doesn`t build them, what would you advice me.......
Hi Mate

To be honest i know Markk can build them and i have asked him prior to this

Dome motorsport can rebuild them(bromsgrove) Tal (Cannock)/Sean @ bara motorsport(bromsgrove) /Tony @ tr transsinons (dudley)/ central axels (birmingham)

there quite a few but if you have got a gripper and you need plates Tom is the only person i know who suppies the plates because it's his unit



Tom @ Gripper only builds the actual LSD units he sets all the plates up inside

he then sub lets the build to Cov automotive

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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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you got propper shit luck mate,,,, hope too see you on sunday, we'll catch up
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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Don't just fit a seal mate. You also need to check that the pinion nut is correctly tightened and peened.
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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any update marco ?

really am gutted for you

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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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this is very bad news pal , looks like theyve left it loose knowing there wasnt a pinion seal in it, and just forgotten and given it you back, no excuse tho really , i mean six weeks is very poor.

i hope you get a deal on the cost of this pal, i for one would give you your money back if i had given it you back like that.
i know toms stuff is very good, but like you say its obv coventry transm thats the prob here.

id take the back cover off and check the cwp mesh to be sure now, its not like its a 2min job if its not right, and could be quite expensive.

good luck marco, sounds like you need it pal.
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by gearboxman
Don't just fit a seal mate. You also need to check that the pinion nut is correctly tightened and peened.
Hi Bernie

I have since spoke to Tom about the diff

and he said that Cov Automotive never had none left in stock so he told me i would have to get one from fords

he said that the rest of the diff is fine and that all it needs is the front seal

I have just orderd a sela from Fords this morning

I'm of to Martins now to check the pressure on the plates to see if he has set them at a lower pressure

because when i asked him what have you sets the plates to he said " oh a lot less than is was before and he couldn't tell me what torque he set them at , so i'm not convinced that he has even reset the plates or not

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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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Mark

Thanks for your help from last time you know what we talked about before


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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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I've got seals here if you're stuck
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 11:32 AM
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Bernie

on my way thanks a million
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you don't get the luck you deserve mate. Hope it's all good for a loooong while once you sort this out
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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As other people have said you're an unlucky git Marco !! Especially with that car.... best just give it to me

It doesn't seem fair that such a sound bloke like Marco should have such shite luck ?! You been a naughty boy in your last life ?

Hoep you get sorted mate.
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shoddy workmanship there
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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Bernie saved the day Marco?
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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Not good mate, shame these people dont care but like you say, you can't make em
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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Sorry to be reading this Marco

Were not having much luck with diffs lately are we. Hope you get it sorted soone rthan later and you have Blue Thunder back on the road.
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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I suspect he's under the car fitting the diff as we speak
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Top man Bernie
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not good news,all the fooking about.

not good for Tom either as i pressume he gave them the work.

hope its done once and for all...soon!
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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 09:13 PM
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If it's any consilation Marco im still awaiting mine back also from the repairers 3 and a bit weeks

So your not alone
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