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XRT_si 20-03-2008 04:34 PM

A little help/advice please - cardio & supplements
 
Really beginning to get into the gym now, enjoy going and seeing improvement, however wouldn't mind knowing a couple of things regarding running/cardio and supplements.

I am 23, 6ft 3", and about 12 stone i.e. A thin build.
Before weight training I go for a 5 minute (fast) run as I find it helps. However a few people have said i shouldnt do any running as i am trying to gain weight. However its made me fitter and imo does good. Anybody clarify whether I should or not as I am hearing different things!

Secondly, trying to gain weight (and believe it or not I have) but what supplements would be best for me. Going gym 3-4 times a week.

Somone suggested 'Cyclone' as it is a mix of a few things I need. Would I be better going for something else?

I have started eating a LOT more carbs and protein orientated foods such as stak and chicken etc...

However not really gainging weight that quick, but finding i am toning up at a reasonable level.

Thanks for any help, very much appreciated!

godzilla 20-03-2008 06:30 PM

If youy want to gain weight then dont do the 5 min run mate!!

Get some good complex carbs in you with decent protien and you will start seeing the gains. As for supp's, Cyclone is very good but expensive. The number 1 rule with bodybuilding is it all comes down to what you eat. If you get your diet sorted and stick to the basics in the gym then you will grow.

Its good that your enjoying the gym and starting to see results but dont spent loads on the latest supp's. I call a lot of latest supp's 'Magic beans' Reason for this is when newbie's join the gym they want results as in a week ago and talk only about the latest supp's that are spread out on the shelves at the local health shop. After spending hundreds of thier cash they find out its all down to eating good protien like chicken, steak, eggs, tuna etc rather than taking a load of 'Magic beans!!'

XRT_si 20-03-2008 07:14 PM

Great advice thanks. :)

So would you recommend I do no running what so ever? As i want to be fitter too as I want to start boxing later this year and I am defo gaining something out of the runs as its easier each time.

Would you say not to bother with any supplements at all then? I dont always have the time (i have a busy job/lifestyle) to eat several times a day though obviously I still eat decent meals. Would the supplements help make up for that or is it a total waste of time in reality?

I think it's good to enjoy doing it, though obviously its hard at times, but then it's supposed to be :)
The other thing I'd like to know is when I first started and up till quite recently I used to regularly ache the day after a good gym session, which I was told is good, as it shows the muscles are repairing themselves bigger.

But lately I dont get the same aches, is it because i am not pushing myself enough now or do your muscles get used to the 'stress'.

Cheers again, very much appreciated.

godzilla 20-03-2008 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by XRT_si (Post 3173737)
Great advice thanks. :)

So would you recommend I do no running what so ever? As i want to be fitter too as I want to start boxing later this year and I am defo gaining something out of the runs as its easier each time.

Would you say not to bother with any supplements at all then? I dont always have the time (i have a busy job/lifestyle) to eat several times a day though obviously I still eat decent meals. Would the supplements help make up for that or is it a total waste of time in reality?

I think it's good to enjoy doing it, though obviously its hard at times, but then it's supposed to be :)
The other thing I'd like to know is when I first started and up till quite recently I used to regularly ache the day after a good gym session, which I was told is good, as it shows the muscles are repairing themselves bigger.

But lately I dont get the same aches, is it because i am not pushing myself enough now or do your muscles get used to the 'stress'.

Cheers again, very much appreciated.


You want to start boxing later this year, are you far from Milton Keynes as i run a class doing Kickboxing, your more than welcome to come along and see what you think.

At the mo' I would concentrate on building your body then maybe do a bit of jogging in 8-10 weeks time. You must give your body a shock by hitting it hard and heavy with the weights. Supp's are good meal replacements. I take a protien shake to work with me as sometimes I dont have a chance for a break so just neck down a protien shake as well as eating some easy foods whilst working like boiled eggs.

The aches are easing up, dont worry, your body is growing and has started to adjust so the aches will ease a bit.

XRT_si 21-03-2008 12:30 AM

Once again very useful.
I am in London so a bit far from you but thanks for the offer!

I should mention i have been going gym for about 8-10 weeks or so now, so guess ill keep with the small runs?

Finally, shall i got ahead with the 'Cyclone' stuff or is there any better/more suitable for my application?

Thanks, your a good person to know :)

godzilla 21-03-2008 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by XRT_si (Post 3174663)
Once again very useful.
I am in London so a bit far from you but thanks for the offer!

I should mention i have been going gym for about 8-10 weeks or so now, so guess ill keep with the small runs?

Finally, shall i got ahead with the 'Cyclone' stuff or is there any better/more suitable for my application?

Thanks, your a good person to know :)


You can keep with the small runs mate but I would not do them for about 10 weeks and put all your energy into building your body. But if you have found that doing the little runs is helping or is making you feel good then keep with them. I drop all my cardio when on mass build up, although I still take my 2 dogs for a 40 min fast walk every morning.

I would give the Cyclone a go mate. Just buy the one tub for now and see what you think after 21 days. Remember though mate.......keep your protien and carb intake high, the key to getting a good body!


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