numzie

Hi there

I am currently looking at this car for sale in Denmark:
http://www.hansenbiler.dk/biler/brug...a-1.8i-XR2i-3d

However, I cannot figure out exactly what this is. The car is listed as an XR2i with 130 hp but in the same time it spots the RS writing on the back.

I cannot figure out whether the XR2i actually came in a 130 hp version - or if this was only the RS1800 that did so?

With a 2-spoke wheel which I pressume is original - it must be an XR2i - but did this come with 130hp?

Do you spot any other strange and non-original things besides the extremely ugly alloys?

I suppose it's a non-original color as well as it has been resprayed lately.

Any help would be appreciated - experts are hard to find in Denmark

Regards,
Kenneth

liam-rst

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Its a strange one for sure it looks to me like an xr2i but never heard of a 130 ps one, its possible that the crossover pipe is a replacement from a 130ps engines car, one way to check is the 130 ps will have 55 stamped quite small on the side of one of the flanges on the throttle body and it is literally stamped not part of the casting, some rs did have the same seats and some had recaros.

liam-rst

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Also them very ugly wheels are also quite valuable haha

numzie

I have read on multiple forums and some say the xr2i 1,8 16V had 130 hp - some say only the RS1800 did - and that it could be different from country to country.

It is very hard to find out. According to previous owner, the only non-original thing is the sound system, exhaust and wheels (as well as the BMW grey color)...

Are those Escort wheels really worth any money?

Do you have picture of the wheels the XR2i was originally born with?

Here are some more pictures:
http://www.bilgalleri.dk/galleri/329..._xr2i_rs_1800_

liam-rst

iTrader: (1)

No the xr2i 16v was 115ps, rs1800 had 130ps, the only difference is the inlet, ecu and cams. The inlet will also have HO written on it if its a 130 ps item, I don't have pics but the rs would have had 5 spoke flat faced 15 inch wheel.
and yes decent escos wheels fetch good money

numzie

Hm - on the last link I pasted - it is clear that it is a 130 hp engine - but I simply cannot find out if it is originally an xr2i or a rs 1800....

liam-rst

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Maybe the rs was not sold in your country and sold badged as an xr2i but I don't know

massivewangers

iTrader: (1)

In the UK, the XR2i 16v was 105PS, the RS1800 was 130PS.

The throttle body is larger, so you could pop the inlet pipe off and have a look. The air flow meter is also larger. The inlet manifold is different internally and has "HO" on it, but you won't really be able to see that in the car. Other changes are to the cams and oil spray jets under the pistons.

Otherwise it will be very difficult to tell the difference, other than what it says on the reg documents, that might give a clue. In the UK, early RS1800s had Recaro seats, but later ones didn't, so that doesn't guarantee much.

liam-rst

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Your right mate 105ps brain fart moment

numzie

So, the XR2i 16v did come with different specs in different countries I guess, as liam informed about the 116 ps.

I hope to get the reg. facts soon. There are not many of these cars left - at least in Denmark.

Edit: you were quicker to correct

chris cdti

When I worked at ford in the late 90's early 2000's we had an exchange student from a German ford dealer for a year and him coming over to England was part of his training. At the time I had a RS1800 and the German lad had a XR2i 16v but his was a 130ps. He said in Europe the XR2I come with the 130ps engine unlike the UK's 105ps version.

chris cdti

And to confuse the matter a bit more Ford have all the RS1800's listed as XR2 on Etis. The inly clue Tonti being an RS is the 130ps engine that's listed

liam-rst

iTrader: (1)

I would say that's possibly cleared it up so I would say it is was the documents say

chris cdti

Both the XR2 16v and RS1800 had 14" wheels. The RS1800 has smaller versions of the mk5 Escort RS2000 wheels.

I don't recall a mk3 Fiesta with the 115ps Zetec as they mainly got fitted to Mondeo's and Escort Si

numzie

Thanks. Any pictures of the correct wheels for the XR2i '93?

chris cdti

See if this works

They are 5 spokes with straight spokes and flat faces. Ones that look similar but look like a star are from the escort

chris cdti

Basic 16v XR2i had steel wheels 14"x5.5j same as the Si 94-95 but with these wheel trims on.

bagginsRSturbo

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I would say its an xr2i and someone stick an rs badge on ,also the the msg sensor. Looks diffrent the only thing i can see from the pics

numzie

Thanks 😊

chris cdti

Well the early version if the Rs1800 had Recaro seats and all the 16v XR2 had wing back seats. The RS did eventually have wing back seats but not in the fabric that the one in the link has.also the wing back seat version if the rs had power steering and was on the later mk3.5 version shell with the flip open fuel filler cap and no style line on the tailgate that comes from the lights.

numzie

Just to sum up - I got the VIN number today. As you can see on this link, it is a Spanish build, originally white XR2i with the 1,8 16V 130 ps engine:

http://vindecoder.eu/check-vin/VS6BXXWPFBNS77910