BADMAN348FRST!!

hi i need to know what to do next!!!
i hav done all the can b done on my rs besides a bottom end rebuild i can go over 15 psi and dn't know what map sensor to get magneti 3bar?? any advice?? what fuel pump to use shall i go cosworth or sytec?? do i need beige injectors? how much bhp can i get out of the standard blues?? thanks

Oranoco

What's your current spec as if you're talking about adding beiges it would indicate you've not really scratched the surface of tuning yet?

luke19790_3

you still on the standard blue injectors??

BADMAN348FRST!!

hi lads
i hav a kent rally cam with double valve springs and veneer pulley, t34 ecsort cossie turbo, had all the head ported and polished, cometic tripple layerd steel head gasket, escort rs turbo gearbox rebuilt with l.s.d stainless steel straight thur exhaust with3.5" rolled out backbox uprated front mount intercooler bout it
yes mate on standard blues! want to sort fueling out and map sensor so i can run bout 18psi

pani_k

iTrader: (1)

Blue injectors are on the limit around 170 or so aren't they? To get into the 200 club is a completely different ball game and by the sounds of it you are still running the standard T2. T3 plus associated mods is where you need to look at next.

EDIT: T34 on blues????

BADMAN348FRST!!

need advice on what to do with my fueling so i can go to the next step lol

luke19790_3

what boost you running on the standard injectors?

luke19790_3

what management you using?

BADMAN348FRST!!

15 psi mate if i go any higher the boost cut comes in i hav a cossie amal valve for sum reason was on it b4 i started

BADMAN348FRST!!

standard with a superchip not sure which 1 was on the car when i brought it 6 years ago

BADMAN348FRST!!

ofab got the rectangle map sesor

BADMAN348FRST!!

pani k yes mate t34 on blues i hav done everthing apart from the fueling she runs perfect @15psi without a problem i need to put a fuel pump in change the injector to beige or greens i want to do green and run about 21psi once i hav had the fueling uprated and set up

Oranoco

I'm amased it hasn't gone bang. A 165 chip (what you will have on stock blues) is designed to work at 12psi on the standard T2.

fiend

iTrader: (1)

Are you sure its chipped? There should be no boost cut if it is. The 165 and 195 chips both remove the boost limit.

BADMAN348FRST!!

ha ha well it runs fine mate need to get it set up on the rolling road with a proper fueling set up lol!

BADMAN348FRST!!

feind mate it got a blue superchip pluggin in the ecu it backfires and cut out it you turn it up over 15psi been told its my map sensor

Nick.W

iTrader: (1)

My advise would be to give somebody like MSD a call and get a custom chip and some proper injectors.

A friend's S2 with OFAC and beiges was set up by MSD with one of thier custom chips and was able to run 20 PSI with good AFR.

BADMAN348FRST!!

hi nick nice 1 mate i will give em a call tomoz

MannheimAlex

I think the Cut out and bangs you get are because of the massive lack in fuel

BADMAN348FRST!!

hi alex nice 1 mate think your right dn't worrie i know what i got to do now thanks every1

E980VTJ

proper laid back, don't worry lads its only the bottom end thats gone lol

luke19790_3

time for new pistons

rsturbonutter

The reason it won't go above 15psi is the fact you got blue injectors which simply will not provide sufficent fuel for anymore than 13-14psi. I am suprised you have got 15psi. You will need to run beiges or bigger for more power and at least a stage 2 chip. With the t34 and the rest of your mods outlined with the correct fuelling and good set up should see you easily touch 200bhp mate. You can get a ofac to run over 21psi if you so wish with the correct tuner but you are talking big boost then and defo steel bootm end to safely run this. Another thing you want to consider is driveability. It's all good having 250,270 even 300 hp is possible form the 1.6 but you can't really drive it on the road because as soon as you hit half throttle you will just light up the wheels in any gear.

rsturbonutter

Also your map sensor should be at least 2 bar which is more than enough for 20 psi. 1 bar equates to 14.5 psi hope this helps

P.s the pump you will need is either an escort cossie pump or 255 of some sort

BADMAN348FRST!!

rs turbo nutter!!! thanks that what i wanted to hear ha ha knew it was possible coz the persion who i started building my car with knew what he was talking bout was 5 years ago now i do all my work myself and when it come to electric and fueling my knowledge runs out i'm teaching myself it all slowley but it takes time i hav got my rs runing 15psi and i havn't even treid to push it anymore for nearly a year i knew the next step was to get the fueling sorted so now is the time to invest abit more money! my rs when i 1st got it was running 180bhp @ 10 psi on a pretty much standard car part from a superchip the guy who built it was a very clever guy and knew alot and what else he done i'm really not sure has got a cossie amal valve lol! all the internal went touched so i hav done the rest at 15psi i would like to its about 200-220bhp! i hav 205/45 r15 on her and i think if i push it up to 300 will need more like 17's and much wider might b a way to get grip only trial and error really goin to get a track day motorsport sytec pump and omex managament systen plus proper injectors then i will finally b ready to go to the rolling road thanks mate nice 1 Greg

zetec-Sam

iTrader: (2)

Stick a Zetec in it and piss 250bhp?

rsturbonutter

Fitting 17's is only good for looks mate. There is a fair bit of work involved to fit them, more than just rolling of the arches and you lose your handling capabilites. I didn't know you could get 205/45/15 tyres and if you have I bet they are not cheap. You will never see 200hp on blues though mate or without a stage 2 chip. If you are wanting more boost then you need to start thinking about a steel bottom end or you will be throwing your rods out of the block lol. I am running 17psi on mine atm and I reckon its around 200-220 but I have got uprated pistons and rods to cope with it. They say that the max standard bottom end can cope with is 16/17 psi but thats on a fresh engine. If you want big power though without spending an absolute fortune on the cvh is as above go full blown zetec turbo

BADMAN348FRST!!

ha ha good advice zetec sam!! rs turbo nutter i got a zetec block and crank goin to get all the fueling sorted on what i got 1st goin to use siemens 630cc injectors with omex ecu should do the trick once i hav it all done i will get the pistons and rod i want with acl race bearing and i will put in the zetec bottom end thanks guys! would like to put her on the the rolling road to she how she does now lol thanks tho!!

rsturbonutter

So you're going zvh waste of time with the amount of work involved it would be easier to go full zetec. You can then sell your cvh on gay bay and probably get more than what a zetec will cost you and you can easily acheive 300 hp. The problem with the cvh is the head is so restrictive so no matter what displacement bottom end you put on you still got the restriction of the head

martysmartie

iTrader: (1)

I very much doubt you have a T34, more like a T3 which is a job to fit in itself!

Also a 2 BAR MAP sensor CAN NOT see any higher than 15 PSI!

The correct solution here is to take it to a tuner to set it up, before you destroy your engine!

My bet is that the calibration is most likely totally incorrect for your engine spec.

Imo regardless of if you do actually have a T34 or not you will be better off having a live map anyway (I think it's possible on EEC management), as you have headwork, cam etc, at the very least you will need a 'custom chip' to be written.

If you are hitting a boost cut then your trying to run to much boost!

Martin

BADMAN348FRST!!

hi martin at 15 psi she runs fine i'm changing the management system now and goin for a proper set or injectors in and uprating the fuel pump thanks for your advice
greg

luke19790_3

are you still driving the car now, like this??

BADMAN348FRST!!

car is off the road now to b stripped and restored and them i will uprate all my fule and get it properly set up why is that?

luke19790_3

the engine will die if you don't sort the fueling out

BADMAN348FRST!!

yer mate i know i'm on the case will post my my rs is fully restored and fueling sorted ha ha thanks tho